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Russia is likely to test NATO’s collective defense pledge very soon, Sweden’s top military official said, as Moscow escalates its campaign of hybrid attacks against Europe.

“I'm sure and I'm convinced that they would be ready to test Article 5 of NATO at any point in the Baltic states or in some other part of Europe as well,” Swedish Chief of Defense Gen. Michael Claesson told POLITICO, referring to the alliance's common defense provision.

“They are prepared to take enormous strategic risks to gain whatever they see possible to gain,” he added, pointing to Russian President Vladimir Putin’s past military campaigns. “We have seen it since Chechnya, we have seen it in Georgia, we have seen it in Crimea.”

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[–] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 76 points 1 week ago (5 children)

At this point Russia can probably drop a nuke on Berlin and Trump will give the rest of the EU and the UK a 3-day ultimatum to surrender Germany, Austria and all of Eastern Europe to stop the cause of the absolutely necessary Russian defense operations.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago

tRump is sucking dick all over the world apparently.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is my fear. For all intents and purposes Article 5 basically says “poke us and the Americans will fire up the meat grinder,” the EU is in a vulnerable position right now since our CVNs may all be tasked with lining up for parade on a whim or whatever bullshit and the US is the overwhelming majority of force in NATO.

This is Russia using our government to make moves.

[–] havocpants@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

European countries are hardly helpless without the US. Also, western armies do not fight meat grinder/trench warfare tactics like the Russians, they fight with air supremacy.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Yes I am aware, we built an air dropped meat grinder called the R9X that can be delivered via drone and many many other creative explosive devices of all kinds. China’s 003 is close to fully operational but aside from that and France no one else has CATOBAR carriers loaded with 5th gen jets and the Fujian is still diesel powered. Europe is not entirely defenseless but the vast majority of NATO firepower comes from USA, and sadly we are not a reliable ally. Saab is already learning this from countries rethinking their purchase of the F-35.

[–] kinther@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

So what about France and the UK? They have nukes as well.

[–] Nomorereddit@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago

One city or the planet (nato n Russia) is a hard call any way you slice it.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

trump would want to give back Alaska to putin eventually, something russia might have a more "legitimate" claim than the rest of eastern europe.