this post was submitted on 20 Nov 2025
320 points (98.2% liked)
science
22560 readers
613 users here now
A community to post scientific articles, news, and civil discussion.
rule #1: be kind
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
it's politics.
politics makes people dumb and delusional
I don't think so, Tube Titties. There has been a lot of smart fucking politicians, and lots of solid fucking political movements.
I think it's money. Money has superseded democracy and rule of law. It's literally the only thing that matters. That is the problem.
money is politics.
Well, see, there's your problem right there. There is a distinction between what politics means and how it gets corrupted.
Like, in ancient Rome they made a decree that anyone hitting someone has to pay a $50 fine on the spot (or the fucking correlate amount of Sestertians), and one rich fuck went around in his sedan slapping people in the streets and have his posse pay the victim and then move on to the next one.
That's hardly "politics"- that's abuse and loopholing the law.
There is such a thing as just law, just politics, democracy and basic fucking human decency, and we can have it.
But rich fucks decided, what if we use our money to corrupt politics, so we can slap people in the face with impunity?
That's the problem. Money. Not politics itself.
Agreed. Politics is a natural process for us humans. We engage in politics when we raise our hand to be called on in class, or even when we blurt out our answer. We engage in politics when we decide what information should be public, internal, and confidential at work. We engage in politics when we decide to vote on representatives.
Money is just a medium for stored value, a status provided by collective agreement. Money isn’t inherently political, but it’s often used politically. Funds are often produced or withheld based on political considerations. This is usually fine when it’s money leaving our political system. The bigger problem is when the considerations are set by monolithic entities pushing money into our political system.
that sounds fine in theory but you can't extricate money from politics. even if you enacted a perfect finace reform for all govt officials, average people tend to vote on issues that affect their finances. It's always going to be about money one way or the other.
You’re missing an important distinction ….
The problem is money distorting politics to harm society or citizens in favor of a few
Politics serving the needs of citizens, including their economic needs, is NOT