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[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 7 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Now do all the other automakers. I bet the results will look the same.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago

Honda has a policy of not making political donations.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Well, as long as everyone is being shitty, I guess we shouldn't mention how they're shitty. Except apparently some aren't.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Well when the discussion is centering around "I wont buy brand X because of this behavior," it should be pointed out when every other brand is engaging in the same behavior. This is the type of blindspot you get from an echo chamber.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The difference is assuming, rather than looking for evidence, and then doubling down like now, after being told that at least one automaker is making a point of not making political overtures.

If you care to pore over my post history, you will see plenty of comments from me making the same point to people saying, "I won't buy an EV because of all the privacy violations," with me responding, "All new cars have this problem, ICE or EV." They then respond with, "Well, that's why I won't buy a car made after x year," to which I respond, "Then why mention EVs at all?"

If you don't want to bother educating yourself before making sweeping statements, don't be surprised if someone calls you out on it, echo chamber or no.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The difference is assuming, rather than looking for evidence, and then doubling down like now

You mean like you're doing right now?

after being told that at least one automaker is making a point of not making political overtures.

"Being told" something is now considered irrefutable evidence and if I don't simply accept what I'm "being told" that's being "uneducated?"

Oh, what's this?

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/honda-motor-co/summary?id=D000042345

Youre not "calling me out" on anything you're just being a contrarian and sanctimonious buffoon and you quite embarrassingly don't even have your facts right.

What a joke and over something so innocuous too...

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

So, using the handy little tool you referenced, I scrolled down to see how much of those contributions were from individuals associated with Honda, versus contributions from the Corporation. We'll, the total from Honda, since 1990, was $324k. The total that wasn't from individuals, from the Honda corporation, was...$0. Meanwhile, if you want to find a year where that's applicable to Toyota, you will have to go back to 2012, the furthest back that the history (easily) allows you to go on that site. And their total from corporate and individuals comes in at $8.9M.

My embarrassment knows no bounds.