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Sony believed that they had so much market share that they could make a console that was leaps and bounds more complicated to code for, which would lock devs in and prevent them from going elsewhere, and they’d just have to suck it up because of said market share. Sony was wrong, and they lost out big time that generation (although they did manage to win the Blu-ray vs hd-dvd format wars).

Microsoft seems to believe they have so much market share that they can force people to upgrade to a privacy invading, ai infested piece of crap, and that everyone needs to suck it up because market share.

I’ve already started hearing wind that people, in statistically significant numbers, are finding alternatives… so is this the same situation as the ps3?

Just a passing musing without much to back up the gut feelings.

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[–] Godort@lemmy.ca 147 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Microsoft is bleeding power users and PC enthusiasts at an unprecedented rate. This is a great thing for Linux, but they are still absolutely locked into the corporate world and that's where the money is.

The reality is that Microsoft solved management of corporate policy and identity like 25 years ago and nothing else has come close. It has its problems, but Active Directory is an incredible piece of software. The combination of LDAP, with obfuscation of Kerberos to the point where you don't even need to know it exists, combined with policy deployment to endpoints is nothing short of a miracle.

Linux has tools for all those things, but none are easy to deploy or configure. If you have to manage thousands of desktops, Windows is still the clear choice

[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 69 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you are a large corporation or government, you'd have the resources to do exactly that. I keep hearing about European governments moving to Linux. And why wouldn't you? Screw perpetual licensing.

[–] Godort@lemmy.ca 69 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What those EU governments are doing is out of interest for national security rather than hate for licensing. The US has changed drastically in the last decade and getting your sensitive data out of their infrastructure is a top priority.

The cost of change from Windows to Linux is pretty small for an individual. Most people have one or two machines and a handful of programs, none of which are critical to your continued existence.

In the corporate world, you need to be absolutely sure that everything will work flawlessly, which often means weeks or months of testing on top of all your regular IT duties, constant support tickets to obscure software vendors who may not have ever worked with Linux, and if some mission-critical piece of software breaks, then the company cannot operate until it is fixed...or you can continue to use Windows, even though it sucks more now.

I want Linux to have wider adoption in the desktop space, but it's a catch 22. People aren't going to move unless the software is guaranteed to work, and Linux-based software isn't going to be made unless people are using it. This is why Proton was such a big deal. It offered a real option for gaming to move to the platform and now it's viable and devs are starting to take linux into account.

[–] jrs100000@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Its not a guarantee of flawless operation thats required, its a source of liability if something goes wrong. Someone has to be responsible if the latest update blows everything up.

[–] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

Now where did I place that consultant..

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 4 points 22 hours ago

I'm sure large organizations moving to Linux are also choosing a distro that has paid support. It's probably still cheaper than Microsoft licensing, though.

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You keep hearing about the same 3 german states moving to LibreOffice. That's not quite the same thing.

[–] 9bananas@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago

generally, yes, but it's a couple more now;

  • Austria's military is moving to open source
  • couple of french cities (was is lyon?)
  • i think denmark?
  • pretty sure there's a couple others

point being: it's a clear trend!

it's slow, yes, but it seems to be picking up steam!

the idea is being seriously discussed at basically all state institutions.

and more importantly: the reason for this trend is clearly data security. which states actually care about. so there's a very clear and easy to understand incentive, which makes it politically palatable.

we'll have to see, but the trend seems to be heading in the right direction!

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Novell solved directory services 25 years ago. It took MS 10 to catch up.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well remember netware had a 250 user limit per server before 4.0. Thats not alot in corp space. I remember running many servers just to handle user auth and logon back with netware 3.12

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wasn’t 4 still a flat directory? I’m talking about 5 when it got serious.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Its been like 3 decades.... bit i thought ver 4 introduced the bindery which removed the per server user limit.... i moved into networking about that time so im not sure. WindowsNT hadnt been released yet i remember.

[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was going to reply essentially the same thing! I'm glad someone remembers their IT history. :)

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

"IT history" :(

Oh, well, time to go back to my crypt.

[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Haha, recent IT history. :)

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I present to you a wild notion:

Adobe OS.

They have the market value and revenue to do what steam is doing.

They could make switching a cost save if the OS integrates vertically with the creative cloud.

To be clear, I don't want this and would t use it. But any business with licenses would say "wait... Ditch Microsoft ios, and... Poof? Everything works and we pay way less money?"

All that Microsoft provides any business at this point is AD/Azure.

I feel like Microsoft is taking massive Ls between now and 2030. I don't think Adobe is gonna do this, I'm just saying if they did, it could work. Microsoft is a weak giant right now.

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 22 hours ago

Adobe has been their own worst enemy for decades and their one true skill is fucking things up. The best thing about Adobe trying to make their own OS would be that it could wipe them out.

-signed, a long time bitter former Adobe user that still has to support their shit

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

AD and LDAP is notoriously insecure as hell by default. It took until 24H2 for MSFT to enable SMB signing, which was a solid 50% chance for an unauthenticated attacker to reach domain admin on any enterprise network.

There are a lot of solutions that eclipse AD in both quality and scope. It's just like VMWare, a once solid product that orgs got vendor locked into, and are stuck for life.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

It’s a backwards compatibility issue. MS has been telling people for years that defaults are not secure. I have enterprise grade equipment in production that doesn’t support smb signing by default.

Shit is crazy.