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[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net -4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Thank you for being the one to post that. It really bugs me when people say Jesus didn't exist and present it as if it's uncontroversial fact. Whether you believe in the claims about Him as a Messiah, a divine figure, et cetera are beside the point when discussing His existence. There is actual historical evidence to support that the figure existed and began a ministry around that time. Being anti historical is just bad practice, regardless of the side you're falling on. Historical Jesus is a fascinating subject.

Again, regardless of your view, love Him or hate Him, a guy was born, said some stuff, and died, and it literally changed the entire course of human history. Religions that reigned for thousands of years do not exist anymore because of Him, the most influential government to exist until the modern era was based on the idea of being the torch bearers of His legacy. Empires rose and fell on His word (or, His supposed words, depending on your point of view). Like... No matter what, it's a crazily interesting thing, and the idea that any one human can have a legacy like that is amazing. Let's not downplay it. Heck, if you hate the guy, at least acknowledge He was real so that we figure out how to prevent others from having their message of peace and love so distorted and causing so much grief.

A dude lived 2000 years ago and we're still talking about him, that's pretty incredible. Worth learning about. Same with other historical religious figures, like Muhammed, Siddhartha Gautama (the Buddha, although we are slightly less sure he existed, though consensus is that he did), Adi Shankara, and others.

[–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not sure why you're being downvoted. Just because religions have ruined lives doesn't mean we can't acknowledge the historical significance of many of these religious figures.

I mean, glazing over emperors, philosophers, and other historical figures is kinda normal around here despite the same issue of dubious accuracy about their lives.

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 hour ago

I don't really care about down votes, tbh. But disliking a figure and pretending they don't exist is ridiculous. "Stalin was awful! So he's fictional!"

... Yeah, bro. That tracks. Lol