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The only thing keeping them on the train is the dehumanization of brown people in this country (lemmy.ca)

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[–] Juice@midwest.social 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wow you're really cheesed. Like I said in my first sentence, I don't support those views or people with those views. Ive worked with people who are do try to reach over and convince the MAGAs and frankly they're the worst. I'm not one of them I'm asking a question about the middle, the exact folks you are talking about.

But to someone who genuinely thinks that immigration threatens their jobs, their logic based in the education they received, the news they consume, the ambient culture.

My question is how do you do that? How do you reach the people in the middle who are most affected, fearful, worried, and hence easy to manipulate ideologically?

Explain to me, a regular person just trying to get by, how immigration doesnt affect me. Convince me.

What "solution" did I even offer? I asked a fucking question. This is legit the most bad faith response ive ever received.

Is this how you engage in political discourse? You just blow up at whoever you're talking to? Assume they are evil and stupid? Let me ask you, who are you recruiting to the cause? What real work are you doing to help people and resist fascism? Are you just getting mad at people you made up in your head? Im pretty sure you aren't doing shit, because people who are doing the work dont act like this. Fucking relax.

[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Wow you’re really cheesed.

Is this how you engage in political discourse? You just blow up at whoever you’re talking to? Assume they are evil and stupid?

Fucking relax.

Jumping to trolling with the comment equivalent to "u mad bro?" while pretending to care about civility is wild.

This is legit the most bad faith response ive ever received.

This right here is straight projection, especially given clearly some others thought my comment fit perfectly/was a reasonable interpretation of yours.

What “solution” did I even offer?

Because as long as our political strategy amounts to “shame anyone who demonstrates an affective affinity with the right, and vote” we won’t be able to resist the creeping threat of fascism. In 5-10 years it will be full on Nazi shit and I dont want to die in a concentration camp please and thank you

You are clearly suggesting that not shaming the fascists is part of the solution here and now you're feigning ignorance to having said that.

Explain to me, a regular person just trying to get by, how immigration doesnt affect me. Convince me.

and

I asked a fucking question.

Yeah, nah. Now, with the rest of the comment as context this seems more like an effort to sealion than a real question, especially with you saying:

Explain to me, a regular person just trying to get by, how immigration doesnt affect me. Convince me.

Which completely changes who you're portraying yourself to be and asks me to waste my time with a right wing talking point that is now suddenly the focus, as if the uncaring people think this is a major point anyways.

I probably spent to much effort responding to this comment that is clearly actually in bad faith.

I mean look at this shit:

What real work are you doing to help people and resist fascism? Are you just getting mad at people you made up in your head? Im pretty sure you aren’t doing shit, because people who are doing the work dont act like this.

Pure right wing, 4chan style ragebait trolling.