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[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 33 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Notice he said that they are "losing" him, not already lost.

Still fine enough with everything so far. I'm always wondering what it would take to actually turn people like this.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

One bad thing happening directly to them. They have no empathy. Being "pleased" with how ICE is doing is proof positive of that.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

The "ICE took my wife" guy still loves trump. For most of these people losing their job or their house is basically the only path to changing their politics

I’m always wondering what it would take to actually turn people like this.

Direct, negative consequences. They're upset as they watch their lives slowly get worse, and they see inaction on that from the administration.

But if that administration says "we will be taking $5,000 in taxes from your paycheck" or "we are going to forcibly house a military member in your home because fuck the constitution", that is when they actually make the mental connection between politician they support and bad consequences that have only now directly harmed them.

Otherwise, they just see it as "damn, I guess politicians really are just kinda annoying and don't like doing much to help me. Oh well!" and not "This politician just hurt me", even if a politician never improving your life as it endlessly gets worse is still a measurable harm.