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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 11 points 5 days ago (3 children)

The turnout is low for any group that is dismissed by the parties. Why would you vote for people who ignore you?

Give them a reason, they'll vote.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

also because the OLD guard DNC doesnt market them in anyway, the gop got it down to a tee on some gen z, PROPAGANDA through social media, which is the best way to reach the younger generation. the dnc just doesnt do that, they stick to cable/national television where everything is curated.

not to mention there isnt much of a leftist/democratic network as well. CNN AND pbs got astroturfed then taken over.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 5 days ago

The Conservative Propaganda Machine is a real thing, conceived and constructed by Dick Cheney and Roger Ailes following the Watergate scandal, which they blamed on the "liberal" media for reporting their CRIMES. It has evolved over the years, and become an astonishingly effective tool.

While they were doing that, the Dems were doing absolutely nothing to counter or match it, and here we are.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Not voting for the dems lead to our current situation. Masked federal agents grabbing people off the streets, the longest shutdown in US history, the dismantling of federal agencies, and the list continues.

Things would have been far from good, but sometimes people need to recognize that you gotta vote for self preservation. It shouldn't be that way but here we are.

Avoiding the formation of a fascist state seems like a good reason to vote to me

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I agree with you, but I get why ignored, criticized, and betrayed groups wouldn't see any reason to vote for either party. The chaos that we've been seeing over the last few years? Some people have been feeling that for decades. They gave up on America long ago, for good reason. They think they'll be better off if both parties destroy each other, and we have a fresh start.

I can appreciate their position, even if I don't agree with it.

[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 1 points 5 days ago

Bernie didn't get the primary in 2016 or 2020. Primaries typically have 5-10% voter turnout. I felt like the only person voting for Bernie both times. If leftist voter turnout was higher, then he would have won the primary.