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MX Linux 25 Officially Released with Debian 13 Base (linuxiac.com)

submitted 5 days ago by cm0002@ttrpg.network to c/linux@programming.dev

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The MX Linux team has officially released MX Linux 25 “Infinity”, the next major version of the popular Debian-based distribution, now built on Debian 13 “Trixie”.

The new version ships in several editions—Xfce, KDE Plasma, and Fluxbox—each updated to their latest stable versions. The release includes Xfce 4.20, Plasma 6.3.6, and Fluxbox 1.3.7.

Most ISO images come with the Linux kernel 6.12 LTS from Debian’s stable repositories, while the AHS (Advanced Hardware Support) variants feature the 6.16 Liquorix kernel for better performance on newer hardware.

The major change is that all releases now include systemd by default, although SysVinit variants of the Xfce and Fluxbox editions are still available for users who prefer the traditional init system. According to developers, this will improve compatibility and simplify future maintenance.

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[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's absolutely not. It tends to be bundled that way, but systemd does one thing. It does that one thing very well. There are many components that tie into it.
If you believe that defies the UNIX philosophy, then you must also believe that the kernel includes every aspect of a graphical desktop environment, just because the latter depends on the former.

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Thats fair, I'm not the most knowledgeable on this subject.

I do think its understandable to be frustrated with decreasing user choice around init systems though. To me it feels frustrating how often the conversation around systemd seems to break down into:

systemd is Satan incarnate, and poison to linux

And

Actually anyone who doesn't like systemd is braindead and just doesn't like it cause it's popular

I don't think peoples frustration or unhappiness with the way its impacting the linux ecosystem is entirely unreasonable. I do think the zealotry and lack of nuance with which people voice their frustrations is often tiring an unhelpful though. That being said, if I understand correctly other init systems are still available for MX, so In don't think its really that big of a deal in this case? Not sure. Original commenter doesn't seem to think that helps the situation, but like I said, I'm not super knowledgable on this subject 🤷🏻‍♂️