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Hardware development is just extremely difficult. The smallest company that I'm aware of that has their own laptop design is Framework, but their laptops are also about twice as expensive as equivalent models from other brands.
In addition, since basically all modern computer manufacturing has to go through Taiwan due to TSMC's near-monopoly on competitive semiconductors, it makes sense to outsource design to Taiwan too. They already have the industry for it, and there's no reason to have a random American company add their own profit margin to the price for no reason.
Idk how big they are compared to Framework, but Starlabs makes their own laptops.
Cool, thanks! UK based, if anyone was wondering
Eh, I just ran some comparisons and Framework is only about $100 more than the cheapest equivalent in another brand with the same CPU/Memory. $200 more with Windows.
Not sure how you're arriving at that low of a difference unless the US pricing is wildly better than in the EU.
If I follow the most obvious user flow on the Framework website (except for removing components that aren't required) then I end up with a preorder for a Framework 16 with a Ryzen AI 7 350, 8 GB of RAM and no storage for 1,724 €. I can get the same CPU in a Gigabyte Aero X16 with the same CPU and 32GB RAM and storage and an RTX 5060 on top for 1,129 €. If I try to configure the Framework to be actually competitive with that model I end up at 2,384 €. It's not just the Ryzen AI model that's like this either, I did the same comparison with an older Ryzen CPU and it was in the same ballpark.
I'm sure the Framework is nicer in many aspects that don't show up on data sheets like chassis finish and build quality (and of course Linux support) but that's a lot of money.