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Choking cause permanent brain damage period. MRI scans prove that the brain has to literally rewire itself do to massive cell death.
Furthermore, this is a one way street with the vast majority being males choking women. Over 58% percent of undergraduate women report a choking incident during sex.
Only 8% of men report choking during sex. If this is such a "universal" fetish why is it so one sided. This is because it isn't. Choking is rarely consensual and even if it is it is extremely damaging to the human mind.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9201570/
That paper isn't quite as compelling as I'd hoped it would be for your conclusions. It's good research, but I'd really like to see a larger sample size, differentiation as to whether people are choked to the point of passing out, and more cognitive tests (because this paper didn't see any decrease in ability).
For sure, but it is not new knowledge that brain cells are very oxygen dependent. Even brief lapses of oxygen to the brain causes cell death.
Choking as a sex act does not necessarily involve blood or oxygen deprivation. For most people it's just a firm hand on their throat.
There is no safe way to constrict breathing. What you saying is not choking or strangulation.
Okay then you're not talking about what everyone else is.
Sure, if your not actually choking, strangulating, or constricting breathing in any shape or form it is okay.
Unfortunately, below is the reality that you have convinced yourself that doesn't exist.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/jul/25/fatal-hateful-rise-of-choking-during-sex
Bruh that's not a sex act that's a murder
Yes, sex acts that lead to death that can be accidental.
Yeah that's my point, the evidence indicates it wasn't an accidental death from an extreme sex act, it was a wholly intentional murder
Dude, do you really need me to prove that people are accidently choked to death during sex acts around the world on a daily basis? I can't even with you right now.
"Strangulation – fatal and non-fatal – “squeezing”, “neck compression” or, as some call, it “breath-play” – is highly gendered. On average, one woman in the UK is strangled to death by her partner every two weeks"
Where are all the men deaths from choking due to sex!?
Your inability to see what is going on is a major failing on your part. That is okay, because you didn't know better until now.
Edit: Death does not even account for brain damage, PTSD, and the epidemic of women being choked against their will.
Again, that's still my point, you're not talking about sex acts, you're talking about abuse and murder that they're trying to excuse
Sex acts are not something that is pure and sacred that exist outside of the very real dynamics of our society.
Yes, these people (the murders from the article) literally are using the arguments that you and other people use in this discussion. They have twisted consent past the breaking point. The fucked up thing is they get away with it.
What about the accidental deaths? As I have already said adults in relationships accidentally kill each other because choking is unsafe. If you accidentally killed your partner choking them are you a murderer!? Has does consent fix this.
Consent does not take away the harm and does not make it acceptable. Should society allow the promotion of these harmful behaviors because "consent'.
I feel like you are not different than the defense attorneys arguing that these murderers are in fact just innocent people engaging in consensual sex acts. Is this really your position?
Furthermore, we are ignoring all the suffering and damage that a permissive culture causes that encourages dangerous acts without denouncing them. This is what is happening in the UK. And their response is to ban these harmful depictions.
This is not a moral panic, when over half of college women report unwanted choking. It is an epidemic.
Oxygen deprivation is not okay and consent cannot get around that. Brain damage is real. It is no different than huffing harmful substances. You are not going stand here and argue with me that it is okay for people to destroy their brains by depriving them from oxygen.
People here will sit here and argue it is okay because CONSENT. This is a disservice to the concept of consent. It is also against the morality of kink culture.