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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don’t give a shit about stroking my ego, I give a shit about progressing leftism in America

Then stop turning people off the Dem party, and start getting people "as left as you" to get in the mindset of voting in the Dem primary...

It's not going to be easy, because like we've both been saying, the prior DNC chairs were biased neoliberal pieces of shit.

But...

Even if the new chair still was, wed still want people to vote in the Dem primary. If you feel the resulting candidate isn't left enough, don't vote for them in the general.

But we fucking need everyone in the primary. Because if primary turnout is depressed, a neoliberal like Newsom could sneak thru, and if he becomes president he will 100% appoint a biased neoliberal as chair.

No one is trying to get you to hold your nose in the general.

Just trying to get you to vote in the primary to help a progressive get the nomination.

What is so wrong about that?

What do you disagree with?

Because there's going to be a shit ton of nefarious accounts doing just what you are soon, and I don't want innocent people lumped in with that because it will divide the party, which again is what neoliberals and trump want.

[–] turdcollector69@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Nah you trying to say that my grievances aren't real or valid is the kind of shit that turns people off the Dem party.

I've already stated my issues clearly, you're just asking for an alternative wording so you can play semantic games.

You can't thought police your way to winning people over, this shit is why we keep fucking losing.

Maybe you should try listening instead of regurgitating the party lines

[–] AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

You are 100% correct, the DNCs primaries are so notoriously corrupt that republicans have attempted to copy super delegates. The party elite picked Hillary over Obama and lost, he was so disgusted by it he didn't even bother to pick a DNC chair, he washed his hands of them. Then they successfully did it with Bernie, the candidate with actual popular support was dumpstered for the bank's darling, Hillary Clinton.

Then instead of even pretending, we are handed the worst candidate who ran for president in modern history. A woman who is familiar with being last place in a primary against the walking corpse of Joe Biden.

People will reject Trump again cause he and Republicans can't govern. But the DNC kicked out David Hogg, a duly elected rep and person with real gravitas in the gun control debate, because he admitted the dems have an incumbent problem.

The DNC is truly a terrible organization.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nah you trying to say that my grievances aren’t real or valid

I haven't said that at all...

I've explicitly agreed with you multiple times about prior DNC chairs...

Can you just tell me why you don't want to vote in the Dem primary?

Because I legitimately don't understand why people are acting like that's worthless

[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago

Its crazy because primaries are probably the best ways to shift the party towards functioning better for your interests.

This is a new sort of self sabotage I've never seen from anyone being serious.