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Caramel macchiatos haven't been a hit the Old World, I take it.
What's interesting to me is just how popular massively sweet, milky tea has become in the USA. Never thought I'd see anything challenge coffee's dominance.
I tried one by accident once. If it's normal to just use caramel flavor, it's fucking disgusting.
They are popular enough here in the UK, certainly, but I suppose we already had a fairly sweet tooth for our tea. Coffee that isn't a sugary milkshake does remain the default if someone just says "coffee" though
Well, the UK is the America of Europe.
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Thats still the same in the US. The portion of people willing and able to spend the money on making coffee not taste like coffee is just very vocal about it and chain coffee (starbucks, dunkin, etc) is pretty horrendous without other flavors covering it up. McDs is ok because they buy out a lot of the bigger "ok" suppliers but then you have to go to McDs.
Good home coffee doesn't have to be expensive! Moka pot is the way to go, IMO. Been using the same one I bought like 8 years ago for $30 every day. I do replace the rubber gasket every once in a while, but it's still very cheap on the whole.
I'm a cafetiere fan, but I've got a moka pot and a V60 as well because sometimes you just want something else. Getting a nice double-walled pot for ~£20 and some good coffee to put in it is some of the best value for money I've gotten. I don't spend big on anything or go for any fancy gear. There definitely is space to treat it as a hobby/artform and go into all the tiny details if you want, but you don't need to do all that to get great results
My mother's mom was from Ireland; Pop was a mutt with an absolutely fucked up upbeinging, so no idea! But my mom and her brother, as well as her 40 first cousins, all drink Lipton tea with milk. They just love basic tea with milk. No sugar, nothing, just black water with milk in it. I bring up the heritage because I assume it's something they brought over, because outside of my family I don't know many people who put milk in tea.
I'm a black coffee with a little stevia guy myself. Wife got me into stevia and it placebo's away the heartburn I got from just drinking straight black.
Breakfast tea with a splash of milk is super common in the UK, that's not weird at all.
Also, the whole of southeast Asia, and at this point the world, loves milk tea - especially with tapioca pearls, aka "bubble tea".
I'm from Jersey and it's weird here. I included the whole Irish thing because I assumed it came from there. They were south Irish, but presumably had similar tea habits.