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What if you could buy off the shelf a box based on #opensource software and hardware that you could plug into your internet connection. You could connect to via Wifi and it would allow an average person to fairly easily configure, via a guided setup, a self hosted Cloud Drive, Social Media server, home automation service, VPN end point, email server and other commonly useful software?

What if that box allowed that person's friends to authenticate and to that box and link a box they own, either close by or remotely. It could extend connectivity and estabilish a chain of trus, provide a level of encrypted backup of content from that box and make assertions about the users on that box such as - This user account is owned by this person, this user account is over 18?

This is a dream. I know I'm rambling. #openwrt, #yunohost, #seflhost, #chainoftrust, #fediverse

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[–] HelloRoot@lemy.lol 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The closest to your dream is probably https://hexos.com/

It is closed source, but build on top of open source...

They (for now) have a one time purchase license, no subscription.

It has buddy backups. Can run on any normal x86 pc / server (you have to bring your own and install hexos to it). And has a nice and simple GUI for deploying services easily.

I never personally used it. I just have it on my radar. For me, the not so easy but fully free (cost) and open source way works reasonably well. I run my homelab with dokploy.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

For a free foss alternative, look at OMV (OpenMediaVault).

Most of what a user might need is fairly simple to set up in the webUI, and if you know what you are doing, you can still go into the underlying debian system and do whatever you like.

[–] HelloRoot@lemy.lol 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

free foss alternative, look at OMV

lol no. I used this one for a month and no.

It works but it has the most convoluted GUI possible. No backup system at all iirc. And running arbitrary containers was a nightmare that is not even integrated with the GUI.

I settled on https://dokploy.com/

@MentalEdge @HelloRoot Yeah I think these are all part of the evolution - rather than the coming together of something that really would pick up mass adoption.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't use either but they aren't the same thing to suggest one is a substitute for the other. Omv has self hosting services that it installs for you. Dokploy is docker manager.

[–] HelloRoot@lemy.lol 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Dokploy has a web ui with a list of services where you click install and it installs them for you. You can set it up to do the exact same job as OMV but also way less or way more, depending on what you want and need. (by just clicking install on the existing templates, or by entering a custom docker compose if you want to run a nieche service)

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So I'd argue dokploy is a perfect substitution (or more like superset) for OMV, but OMV could never substitude dokploy.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

If doing more makes it better then regular docker desktop does that too. Or apt-get.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I don't use docker via a GUI. And I don't run docker at all on the NAS running OMV.

My backup solution is Kopia. Two servers, each running an instance that backs up local storage to the other.

OP isn't talking about a full homelab. If all you need is a home VPN and some network storage via SMB, OMV is fine.

For my homelab, OMV would be clunky af. For the NAS at my dad's end, it's ideal.

[–] HelloRoot@lemy.lol 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

OP is talking about solutions that include certain features out of the box in an easy to use package.

Rolling out a conglomorate of those features that you've manually set up and ducktaped together by hand is irrelevant. That approach was already possible for many decades.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I didn't tho.

You're confusing my homelab with my dads OMV NAS that is running kopia as its only non-standard service because I wanted to use it as my off-site target.

I wasn't presenting OMV as the solution to all of OPs examples, I literally just commented to point out "hey this is kinda like hexos but foss".

To which you responded "lol no, there is no comparison". Which is both untrue, and a rude way to go about saying anything.

[–] abeorch@friendica.ginestes.es 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@MentalEdge @HelloRoot Yeah I'm really thinking about something that you could fling at a friend - maybe someone who setup their phone, home router, google home or amazon alexa - and they would come out at the end with something that resembles a working internet connection and online identity.

@MentalEdge @HelloRoot Its going to have some really basic questions - Where are you located, who is your ISP, what kind of connection for the internet do you have coming into the house, but then also things like - what do you want your domain name to be - who else is in the house? are they an adult? get them to connect their device to the wifi, what domain name do you want to register/ use? Do you want to connect to any friends/family? Do you want to configure some of these home automation devices I we have detected?

@MentalEdge @HelloRoot Yes - #Openmediavault is one of the open source projects that I think are driving towards making something that could be close to what I am talking about.

@HelloRoot Yeah I think a closed source solution is not going to allow it to flourish across a range of applications and hardware. - At a first look things like #yunohost seem to deliver something similar but free for vendors to potentially adopt for their hardware