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Rule of law is obviously sympathetic to Hamas.

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[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A very reasonable and sensible perspective, but what if that's still not going to be a fair trial either? We all have pretty strong opinions about torture, so I think we may need to go the extra mile in this case. If no unbiased jury can be found anywhere on planet Earth, then we'll have to send them to Mars for a fair trial instead. It doesn't even have to be elaborate, we can use the rules of the good old fashioned "trial by ordeal". If you can survive on Mars, that demonstrates you were innocent all along and you can come right back home. Otherwise this is going to get dragged out for years and years while they dig up even more evidence and who knows what else may get discovered. This is really the best option for everyone. All aboard to Mars.

[–] kossa@feddit.org 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

A "fair trial" is not about having a jury or judge from Planet Neutral.

Is it about having a defence and a jury or judge who weigh the evidence of the prosecution against the counter-evidence of the defence properly, to come to a conclusion.

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I appreciate your attempt to be serious, but I'm going to continue to recommend trial by ordeal and since you brought up the possibility of having it be conducted on Planet Neutral then I'll support that too, I admit I don't know where it is but I'm assuming it's going to be a really, really, really long trip, especially at sublight speeds.

[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

There was a very high profile criminal rape trial in Australia this year which was abandoned permanently after one of the jurors was found to have snuck a magazine article into court. See Lerhmann vs Higgins.

That could have been a strategy arranged by the defence. But if you think the judiciary itself corruptly arranged it then think again...

There was a civil defamation trial later where it was found the accused did indeed commit rape "on the balance of probability" (vs the more strict criminal criterion of "beyond reasonable doubt").

So in this Israeli case the worry is now that the leak has damaged the likelihood of punishment for the perpetrators.