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[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 1 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

It's really weird that it seems the overriding purpose for your account is to attack vegans. You also must be really desperate, to go so far out of your way to miss the point, seeing the trees for the forest. I chose that article because it contains policy positions from several health authorities, not just one. But sure, maybe it would have been better to quote the others if one of them is technically expired, despite the fact that they actually do support the same policies, just with different wordings and in different papers. But let's look at some of the others that were sourced, and you just completely ignored. From Dieticians of Canada:

Anyone can follow a vegan diet – from children to teens to older adults. It’s even healthy for pregnant or nursing mothers. A well-planned vegan diet is high in fibre, vitamins and antioxidants. Plus, it’s low in saturated fat and cholesterol. This healthy combination helps protect against chronic diseases.

Vegans have lower rates of heart disease, diabetes and certain types of cancer than non-vegans. Vegans also have lower blood pressure levels than both meat-eaters and vegetarians and are less likely to be overweight.

From the Association of UK Dieticians:

  • Carefully planned plant-based diets can support healthy living at every age and life stage
  • Plant-based diets can help to manage weight and may reduce the risk of type 2 diabetes and other chronic diseases
  • You can get all essential nutrients from plant foods but vegans need to ensure a reliable source of vitamin B12
  • If excluding dairy, make sure you consume other calcium-rich foods
  • Include a wide variety of plant-derived foods to ensure your diet is balanced and sustainable

From the UK NHS:

During pregnancy and when breastfeeding, if you follow a vegan diet you'll need to make sure you get enough vitamins and minerals for your child to develop healthily.

Find out more about a vegetarian and vegan diet while pregnant.

If you're bringing up your baby or child on a vegan diet, you need to ensure they get a wide variety of foods to provide the energy and vitamins they need for growth.

And I can go on with others. But you're probably already going out of your way for another bad faith argument. By attacking my comment on the grounds of that statement being "expired", you distracted from what is relevant and matters: are the claims true. And yes, they still are, and they will continue to be. Properly planned vegan diets are nutritionally adequate for all stages of life.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 12 hours ago

your uk dieticians link is referencing the same now-expired AND position

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Properly planned vegan diets are nutritionally adequate for all stages of life.

if this were true, the AND would not have removed that claim from their latest position.

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

And now you're just outright lying. They explain directly in the updated paper why they changed things around - something that was already addressed in one of the articles I linked you to. Either you didn't bother to read it, or as I said before, you are a liar.

This position paper addresses vegetarian dietary patterns in adults aged 18 years or older who are not pregnant or lactating. Facilitating vegetarian dietary patterns in individuals younger than age 18 years and/or for those pregnant or lactating requires specific guidance that considers how vegetarian dietary patterns may influence these crucial stages of growth and development and is outside the scope of this position paper. The target audience for this article is RDNs, NDTRs, and other health care practitioners.

Those topics are literally just outside the scope of that particular paper. There's nothing about the paper itself, or any other resource on any of their other websites to suggest it means they've changed their position. From their position paper on nutrition in child care:

Some children may also require dietary modifications for certain cultural or religious preferences, including vegetarian diets,4 which may also have added benefits. A recent study of one child-care center in South Carolina found that adding vegetarian meals to the menu improved the nutrient content of foods provided while keeping total energy, saturated fat, sodium, and cholesterol relatively low.

And from another of their articles, reviewed on June 5th 2024:

A well-planned vegetarian or vegan diet can meet the nutrient needs of people during all stages of life, including pregnancy, lactation and childhood, as well as for those who participate in competitive sports. It's just about making sure you get the nutrients you need. Fortified foods and beverages can help to increase the intake of certain nutrients. For nutrients that are primarily found in animal foods, like vitamin B12, or when nutrient requirements increase during certain life stages, a supplement may be needed. During pregnancy, for example, more iron is needed, but iron is not absorbed as well from plant-based sources. Pregnant individuals should eat plenty of iron-rich foods, plus a source of vitamin C to help increase absorption, and discuss the possible need for a supplement with their health care provider. Try these iron and vitamin C combinations: beans and salsa, broccoli and tofu, black-eyed peas and collard greens. For infants, children and adolescents, a well-planned vegetarian diet can promote normal growth. Calorie and nutrient needs typically can be fulfilled if the diet provides enough calories and diversity of foods. Incorporating fortified foods and beverages and/or supplements may be needed in order to get the recommended amount of certain nutrients. And while most competitive athletes require increased energy, protein and nutrient needs for optimal performance, there's no reason they can't get everything they need nutritionally from plant sources. All it takes is a little carefulness with menu planning.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

They explain directly in the updated paper why they changed things around ... Those topics are literally just outside the scope of that particular paper.

but they weren't outside the scope of their previous position.

it's clear they are making a weaker claim.

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

No, they are not making a weaker claim at all, especially given they make the exact same claims on their other website I already linked to. You are seriously one of the most obnoxiously dishonest, bad faith actors I have ever come across. Get your head out of your ass.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 hours ago

if you don't like intellectual honesty and scientific rigor, I'll be happy to help you find the block button