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[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 0 points 1 day ago (4 children)

If the US had done the same thing

The US does this today. 20% of black males go through prison throughout their lifetimes, they have the largest prison population in the world. The difference being that this isn't a temporary measure lasting a few years, with the (achieved) goal being reeducation as a consequence of terrorist strikes in the wake of a world wave of radical Islamism. This is a systematic form of racism, a legacy of slavery (and a continuation given how slave labour is legal in US prisons) and something you probably have 0 comments talking about.

where rape allegedly happens

There isn't material evidence of mass rape taking place. You could claim this about any institution in any patriarchal society, but we don't append "where rape allegedly happens" to every institution.

[–] moderatecentrist@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I think the testimonies of rape are credible and major news organisations from multiple countries clearly think that leaked police files from Xinjiang are credible. I'm not aware of similar accusations regarding American prisons concerning black inmates.

Anyway, I expect you just won't believe anything the BBC says (which I just linked to). I think the BBC are credible and reliable, but if you don't think that, okay. I can't change your mind of course. We will just have different views.

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

from multiple countries

From multiple western* countries. Emissaries from many Arab countries went to Xinjiang and declared that nothing wrong was happening.

I'm not aware of similar accusations regarding American prisons

https://www.aecf.org/resources/abused-by-the-state

[–] moderatecentrist@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Interesting, I googled for reports of Arab emissaries going to Xinjiang and I found this from Time magazine, published in 2022:

Arab states are not only lending rhetorical support to China, they are also actively assisting Beijing in its global campaign of abuse and reprisals against Uighurs. At least six governments in the Arab world—Egypt, Morocco, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and the UAE—have detained or extradited Uighurs at China’s behest. According to our dataset at the Oxus Society for Central Asian Affairs, around 292 Uighurs have been detained or deported from Arab states at China’s behest since 2002.

Also you mention "multiple western* countries" as if western countries are automatically wrong. I don't think that's true. I think there are certainly biased media outlets in the West, but I think there are genuine and reliable media outlets too. I think the BBC is reliable. If someone proves their reporting to be plain wrong then I will re-evaluate them, but I haven't yet seen that happen.

According to our dataset at the Oxus Society for Central Asian Affairs, around 292 Uighurs have been detained or deported from Arab states at China’s behest since 2002

So? There was a literal terrorist group in China doing terror attacks. Spain alone arrested more than 400 Arabs with connections to ISIS in antiterrorism campaign between 2013 and 2022.

Is it a conspiracy involving all Arab states to repress Uyghur for no reason? Or maybe the west, which chooses to align itself geopolitically against China, is doing a campaign to destroy the reputation of China in the eyes of westerners to justify hostilities as we see with sanctions?