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Since Trump's election, gun groups catering to progressives and people of color report a surge in interest as they look to defend themselves in a country that, to them, feels increasingly unstable.

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[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

I accept your point. An insurgency can drag on for decades. Look at afghanistan for a more recent example: all that time, money, and materiel wasted for the Taliban to pop back up the instant US troops left.

Maybe progressives could drag out an insurgency long enough that MAGA will give up and hand power back to the people. Trump and his gang would have to flee the country, but i suppose it could happen. American troops had somewhere else to go: back home. Where will Trump’s millions of supporters go? I don’t think the people who pledged their lives to avenging St. Charlie have anywhere else to live.

In the meantime, though, there will be purges, bombings, terrorism, secret police, torture, surveillance, massacres, etc. The vietnamese people had to endure unbelievable horrors before they drove out the Americans. Trump has bragged, though, that if he had been in charge, the vietnam war would have ended in US victory. I wonder what he had in mind: death camps? nuclear weapons?

The responses i have had so far have not addressed the second part of my argument: that strikes, protests, and civil disobedience can be wickedly effective. Trump’s friends are making money like crazy right now - that is, some of them. The farmers hit by his tariffs? They’re mad. The ranchers who are about to see their market flooded with Argentine beef? They’re mad too. That is Trump’s greatest weakness. He promised the ultra-rich that his presidency would make them even richer. If they start to think that Trump is costing them money, his ass is grass.