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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 0 points 6 days ago

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Sorry, you want to replace wooden pallets with hermetically sealed metal boxes? Maintenance costs go through the roof and it might be worth reading up on what they actually use to make those seals (hint: Polymer compounds). You also drastically increase the weight at every step AND add very significant logistics issues (can't have crates too close to the door in case it is rainy). All of which translate to increased consumption of fossil fuels.

Again: We don't overuse polymers because of wanting a summer home in northern Canada. Polymers are used because of their materials properties being... quite frankly insane. Super light material that can take a beating while providing strong water/weather resistance. Like... your "let's put things in a metal box" is already solved by just wrapping some fairly cheap plastic wrap around things. Shipping a hundred plastic bottles uses MUCH less energy/fuel than shipping a hundred glass bottles for weight of the bottles alone. And the glass bottles need significantly more packaging/protection to survive shipping which drastically increases costs on top of that.

There is a LOT of room for improvement. EVERYONE hates paper straws but they are a really good idea that greatly reduces how much plastic ends up in a landfill. But people also rapidly realize that those paper straws need to be protected from creation to end use and... that is still going to be plastic. Optimally you are wrapping the box/stack instead of the individual straws so it is still a net gain, but... yeah.

And there is a LOT of work going in to making greener plastics. But when you engineer out the material properties that made you use it in the first place... it is a cool novelty and great for marketing but it doesn't really change the amount of plastics used in getting that to the point where someone feels good because they are using biodegradable utensils.