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Donald Trump berated Mike Pence, calling his then-vice president a "wimp" during their final phone call on Jan. 6, 2021, hours before Congress certified the 2020 election of Joe Biden, according to Pence's previously unpublished notes included in a new book by ABC News Chief Washington Correspondent Jonathan Karl.

According to court filings, had his case against Trump gone to trial, special counsel Jack Smith planned to use the handwritten notes -- hastily scribbled on Pence's day planner -- as evidence to document the hours before Trump allegedly directed a violent mob to storm the Capitol.

"You'll go down as a wimp," Trump told Pence about his decision not to block Biden's certification, according to Pence's notes about the call on the morning of Jan. 6, just before the president took the stage at the "Save America" rally on the Ellipse. "If you do that, I made a big mistake 5 years ago," Pence wrote Trump told him.

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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

On the other hand, the conservatives have now openly embraced fascism but the dumbest possible version of it as recession looms and a bubble grows.

What would have happened in 2028 if Harris won and the bubble popped on her guardianship of the status quo?

America is about to go hungry and everyone will know who did it.

[–] Catma@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Biden did it?

Trump can literally do no wrong in these peoples minds. You really think there is one person out there that is a die hard Trump supporter who wouldnt blame Biden or democrats?

Half of them would eat shit out of Trumps ass if it meamt libs had to smell their breath

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Exactly. People need to understand and accept that rationality has no place in their world view and start acting accordingly instead of clinging to hope they can ever be rehabilitated through suffering from trump's policies.

The stories we see about magats being upset with him are nothing but "feel-good" copium. Sure, there may be a few cases where someone has become disillusioned with him, but those are amplified and exaggerated way out of proportion. 99% of them are still fully supportive of him and love what he's doing and they will never turn on him.

In their view, trump is divinely appointed by God to lead America to the Promised Land. It all fits with their Christian Nationalist religion, where anything good that happens is thanks to God and anything bad is because of Satan. Of course this perfectly translates to all good is from Savior Trump and all bad is from the Demon-crats!