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[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 36 points 4 days ago (4 children)

It’s wild to me how persistent the lost cause mythology is considering the articles of succession from the traitor states are all out there in the open to be read by anyone at any time. I suppose that requires literacy and an understanding of what a primary source is. Easier to get some bullshit regurgitated into your mouth like a baby bird.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Exactly. "it's not so black and white" when the motivations behind it all were indeed, printed in black and white and very much about black and white people at that.

[–] hateisreality@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

That's just like your opinion, man. Fake news, as thought by someone who hasn't read any of the primary source documents publicly available.

[–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Exactly! For anyone curious, here's 2 minutes of clicking on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Carolina_Declaration_of_Secession#Synopsis

The General Government, as the common agent, passed laws to carry into effect these stipulations of the States. For many years these laws were executed. But an increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery, has led to a disregard of their obligations, and the laws of the General Government have ceased to effect the objects of the Constitution.

It was a hundred percent about slavery, the entire time, and any "states' rights" or "heritage" stuff is propaganda that white supremacists have put out to try to recruit more white supremacists to their cause of white supremacy

"War of Northern Aggression", it was aggression against slavery

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

"War of Northern Aggression", it was aggression against slavery

On top of that, the confederacy started it when South Carolina militias opened fire on Fort Sumter. They initiated the war they could not win just to preserve slavery. There was no northern aggression.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 days ago

And the South was absolutely AGAINST states rights. The South wanted Southern laws enforced in northern states, and their conversate constitution made slavery mandatory for all member states.

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 8 points 4 days ago

Tbh, its hard to ignore the bullshit getting regurgitated when you are still literally a child. I heard about the "war of northern aggression" in elementary school when we covered the civil war.

They are literally grooming our children into this.

[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Even in CA, we had a Texan middle school teacher who drilled into our heads like a mantra that the Civil War was about disagreements over States' rights/tariffs/etc.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

What a loser. I had a high school teacher from North Carolina that would jokingly call it the war of northern aggression, but she was smart enough to point out to us why that notion was bullshit before playing heel.