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[–] Clanket@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Say goodbye to your left nut. There's a small hard right in Ireland, the rest of us are too busy enjoying ourselves

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (3 children)

There's a small hard right in the US (and probably most other places that are starting to get more authoritarian), that doesn't stop them from manipulating their moderate compatriots.

[–] Zedstrian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Far-right groups in the United States have unfortunately become more widespread, as illustrated by the roughly 30% of Americans who consistently poll in favor of Trump's political positions, even in the case of otherwise unpopular policies.

As has happened in similarly backsliding democracies such as Turkey and Hungary, the increasing control of the American far-right over print media, broadcast media, and social media has resulted in the silencing of dissent and is unduly influencing public opinion to improve their odds in future elections.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago

Yes, but those are far-right groups who represent a tiny minority manipulating more moderate right-leaning demographics. Most Trump voters you'll meet will probably be really personable until you hit a specific topic they've been trained to react negatively to.

Thats the main problem in fighting these trends, people expect everyone supporting these awful policies to actually know what they mean and represent the hard right that is just influencing them.

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Aye, in terms of actual numbers there was a small hard right in Germany in the 1930s...

Sometimes you can seize power as a minority if you're sneaky and underhanded enough, or if your opponent is complacent and weak.

People are easily fooled into acting against their own interests and helping their enemies defeat them (Brexit being an obvious recent example).

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ireland understand colonialism from the victim point of view. Americans "leftists" are swooning over an Abu Ghraib torturer with a Nazi tattoo who says he didn't know it was a Nazi tattoo he just wanted to get a tattoo of a skull to commemorate his four tours fighting, as if that's better. That's today's US progressive.

Trump is a symptom, not the disease.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Do you have a name to go with that torturer or do I get to just take your word for it?

"Leftist" is a particularly difficult descriptor to nail down, especially in the US. It can refer to people with actually progressive views, or just people who see something that helps them advocate violence against people they dont like, or even elements of Stalinism that people like to assume is progressive when it's closer to fascism in practice.

[–] Tobberone@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 days ago

Oh, there is no need for the troll farm spreading the disinformation to be Irish... It could be based in any dictatorship wanting to sow division in democracies to weaken them. It's happened before.