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Bacon and ham sold in the UK should carry cigarette-style labels warning that chemicals in them cause bowel cancer, scientists say.

Their demand comes as they criticise successive British governments for doing “virtually nothing” to reduce the risk from nitrites in the decade since they were found to definitely cause cancer.

Saturday marks a decade since the World Health Organization in October 2015 declared processed meat declared processed meat to be carcinogenic to humans, putting it in the same category as tobacco and asbestos.

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[–] blave@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Not if the category is “causes cancer” — nor, in the case of your Glock and bomb, if the category is “can kill you”

Context matters

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

And fittingly, both of those categories are pretty much a perfectly overlapping venn diagram because they are so overarchingly vague.
Drinking water can kill you, and if it's too hot, it causes cancer.

Therefore "drinking water" is something that can be found it both lists. And so is "not drinking water".

[–] blave@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago

Well, I’m glad somebody noticed 😉

[–] turdcollector69@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I never said they weren't in the same category. To act like implying the risks of nitrates are identical to asbestos is insane and just makes people ignore these warnings.

There is a need to differentiate the level of risk because if you don't people are going to think the 10,000kg bomb is the same danger as a Glock when in reality they abso-fucking-lutely not.

It's disingenuous, you're right that context matters because displaying the two as if they're the same strips the risk assessment of its context.

[–] blave@lemmy.world -4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I never said they weren't in the same category

No, the fact that they are in the same category is the entire reason for your comment. Making such a claim is disingenuous… Which, if I recall, is your accusation.

To act like implying the risks of nitrates are identical to asbestos is insane

I agree. Most people here do. That’s why nobody has made such a claim.

[–] turdcollector69@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

How can you not see how putting in the same category implies the same level of harm.

I hate these fuckin reddit brained Lemmy users who intentionally misread comments just to argue some adjacent point.

Whatever if you all want pointless warning labels go for it, just know you're not doing anything useful.

[–] blave@lemmy.world -5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

How can you not see how putting in the same category implies the same level of harm.

Because I can read

[–] turdcollector69@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Clearly not well, reading comprehension is important

[–] blave@lemmy.world -3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I’m not the one who has misused several words, clearly not understanding their definition.

I’m also not the one making an absurdly obvious strawman argument.

How’s that for context? lol

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

this comment chain sucks