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BREAKING: Israeli authorities have beaten Greta Thunberg, made her kiss Zionist flag
(www.thecanary.co)
this post was submitted on 04 Oct 2025
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The description of events she provided should have produced physical evidence. Bruises at a minimum. Did she publish photo evidence?
You know, that's kind of a weird response. Because what I asked was whether or not my interpretation of a set of events fulfilled your criteria for credibility. And instead of answering a pretty simple yes-no question you asked whether Greta Thunberg has published photos of her unclothed body.
I feel like you responded in your head, and then imagined my response, and then wrote a response to that.
But I think I can infer that you're unconvinced.
Now I gotta ask: if that's your standard of evidence, do you also doubt the veracity of the Israeli hostages returned from Gaza who attested to being tortured and abused?
If not, I think you're exercising some pretty "selective" skepticism. And if so, congrats on your neutrality but Jesus Christ, that's fucked up. When anyone gets back from captivity and alleges that they were abused or raped or violated, requiring them to expose themselves to you as the price to have their claims considered is quite gross. It's not even an effective form of proof. Most torture is markless, and bruises are easily faked.
I'm not asking you to "believe women" or accept any victim narrative unexamined. I'm just pointing out that you can judge victims credibility without demanding that they submit to your leering gaze. Don't believe Greta? Fine. I think that just as the hostages are far more credible witnesses to their own treatment than Hamas, the hundreds of flotilla activists testimony is far, far more credible than IDF. But you do you.
I'll be honest, I've only seen a few images of hostages returned to Israel and all of them looked healthy. I had expected their condition to be worse. That said, I've not looked at any video and only a few images, so I could be missing something. What are the allegations and evidence of allegations being provided by those who have been returned? I'm not invested in either side of that conflict, so I don't feel a need for either side to be the "right" side.
Reported experiences vary between the hundreds of hostages, but in general, public statements have been inspecific declarations that they went through hell. A smaller number have spoken more publicly and described specific horrible abuses. Prisoners released by Israel largely mirror this, which is consistent with an abundance of public evidence that Israel operates extremely brutal extrajudicial torture camps.
But honestly, I'm not sure why we're still talking about this. This started because you said that you believe it's important to exercise skepticism towards sensationalist claims, and I pointed out that it's equally dangerous to ignore credible atrocities because they are too shocking.
The situation in Israel/Palestine is really not that complicated. If you're unaware because you're not following it, that's fine, but then I think it's ignorant to demand extreme forms of evidence for things which are already well documented that you can't be bothered to review.
The US is materially supporting a state sponsor of terrorism in broad daylight. This is publicly acknowledged by experts and major figures within Israel. Do with that information what you will.