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[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

And that's when you say a jury of 12 ordinary people looked at the evidence and said he was guilty. Trump said he didn't do that, so they looked at the records, and they found that Trump falsified business records. He paid a pornstar to cover up an affair and a lawyer to manipulate online polls, both illegally declared as a legal expense. The fraudulent payments helped him illegally influence the outcome of the 2016 election, and are therefore felonies. If he hadn't committed those crimes, he might never have been president in the first place. We don't get to see what a fair election would have looked like because of his crimes, which a jury decided he did indeed commit.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

And that's when they abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

[–] A7thStone@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

It is not that they are afraid of being convinced. They fear only to appear ridiculous or to prejudice by their embarrassment their hope of winning over some third person to their side.

Don't forget about the last part of the quote. In my opinion it could be there most important part. That is the reason to argue, because we want to show how ridiculous their arguments are to third parties.

[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

And that's when you repeat that he's a criminal who rigged two presidencies through fraud and intimidation, and who according to the law belongs in a jail cell at this very moment.