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[–] krunklom@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You're describing Hegelian dialectics - not debate.

Debates are usually about proving your position, and thereby proving the other person's wrong.

[–] creamlike504@jlai.lu 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

That's how I was taught to debate.

Unless your positions are mutually exclusive, it's often possible for both parties to justify their position.

From my experience, the zero-sum I'm-right-you're-wrong style of debate started when we started televising them. You may disagree, but I think debate was more productive when we weren't incentivized to score points on each other.

If that's Hegelian dialectics, then I prefer that to what you call debate.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago

Debate is about convincing your audience, not the people you're arguing against.

[–] krunklom@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

Anyone can teach anyone anything and call it whatever they want.

What you're talking about is the Hegelian concept of thesis, antithesis, synthesis.

As the other commenter pointed out debate is about convincing your audience or judges that you're correct.

Your way of doing things is a much more constructive way of discussing almost anything on which you disagree with someone, in like, most cases, imo.