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[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 11 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

They desperate for the world to be simple so that their simple, “elegant” solution...

Tbh, that's most people, most of the time.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, but that doesn’t excuse anything. And if a solution looks to good to be true then you gotta back it up with studies and trials and evidence not just feelings and decades of complete failure. UBI is an elegant and simple solution and tests for it have gone well. Getting rid of regulations and taxes and expecting trickle down economics and the free market to make everything wonderful is the realm of the stupid and insane.

So even if it is “most people” there’re still two groups within it.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 11 hours ago

I'm not disagreeing! A long time ago there was a very popular tv commercial with a big, red "easy" button. It was popular because most of us wish for it, while understanding it's the work behind the scene, often for years, decades, that makes the magic. Imagine if all we leftist regular people had the will and fortitude to get on board with the ones doing the heavy lifting what we can accomplish! It doesn't mean we'll even live to see results, just that we can envision a better future for everyone, if we just keep working for it...

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

"Desperate" though? Most people aren't out there living in a false reality in order to accomplish it.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 7 hours ago

Our problem is, despite shocking "alternate realities" occasionally bursting through our own carefully cultivated protective bubbles, we still refuse to acknowledge that people are, in fact, doing just that, and it doesn't matter if they're the majority. They're the loudest and most persistent, and that's what got us where we are. HRC was so confident the Don couldn't win, and I expressed alarm and said he was going to win and people poo-poohed and hand waved my concerns aside. And here we are and people are still too busy looking back, being mad an unwinnable candidate lost, while Charlie Kirk is dead, the left and LGBTQ are being banned <-- should've been "blamed", but banned is the effect --and Nick "I fucked your ~~movement~~ baby”* Fuentes ideals are still winning.

Edited again to correct Fuentes quote and add relevant video clip

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3DkTvuxJgJg