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[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 116 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You don't have to search long to discover that Charlie Kirk was a loathsome individual.

Even when he died, his last words were an attempt to mislead people into thinking that trans people were more violent than they are.

[–] unconsequential@slrpnk.net 62 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Literally died with “violence” on his lips

[–] hector@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

Albeit with a less than full throated attack on the others in question...

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (5 children)

his last words were an attempt to mislead people into thinking that trans people were more violent than they are.

they were actually "counting or not counting gang violence" which is a racist dogwhistle.

Unless there's been some new trans gangs

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 day ago

He was pivoting to that after getting called out with data when he was lying about trans mass shooters. Instead of accepting that he was lying he tried to deflect with racism.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

Here is the context. It really was an attempt to paint trans people as violent.

“Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?” an audience member asked.

“Too many,” Kirk responded to applause from the crowd.

The attendee informed him that the total was five and continued: “Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?”

“Counting or not counting gang violence?” Kirk replied before, just seconds later, he was struck by the bullet and fell from his chair, prompting the panicked crowd to disperse in terror.

The reason he brought up that point was to support his proposition that trans people are violent.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Liberal gun nut here. It's useful to set gang violence aside to seperate it from gun violence that is random, which is what most people fear. IRL the term is almost always used to mean, "brown people killing each other doesn't count".

[–] hector@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Targeted violence does not bother people as much, same thing with the mob killing each other, or even a jilted lover. What really freaks people out is random violence.

The meth head that knifes someone for their wallet in an alley, or indiscriminately spraying bullets and hitting innocent bystanders.

The media feeds the fear, expressly to build the police state, and to give them unaccountable power.

*black people, but yeh

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago

I want every trans person to gather together. Every one in the US. Let's really see what these snowflakes are scared of.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

Somebody else on the fediverse here right after this happened was saying that he likes to think the shooter was sitting there listening to him wondering if he wants to pull the trigger and then heard that bullshit.