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[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

You think they don't know?

Yes. In fact, I'm certain they don't. You have to understand, Trump voters don't live in our reality. They live in a fabricated fantasyland created by the slop media they consume. They think Donald Trump is fighting the pedophiles, because that is what they have been told to believe. All of the attacks on him are "fake news" because they're from mainstream media sources, which they have been told to never trust.

If concrete evidence that they have been directly lied to is distributed to them by a source they trust, I can't say for sure what would happen, but it's probably the best chance for them to be deprogrammed.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 hours ago

Yes. In fact, I’m certain they don’t. You have to understand, Trump voters don’t live in our reality.

So this will bring them into reality? Why would they start living in it now all of the sudden? They will create some alternate theory in their minds and cling to it if they have to.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca -1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Sound like you don't live in our reality my dude.

If you keep underestimating everyone who doesn't agree with you, it'll be difficult to think of true, inclusive change.

They know. And they understand. The just reach different conclusions and actions with the same information and capabilities as you.

Like you, most people aren't passive receptacles of what happens around them. But not everyone will react the same way or think the same thing as you.

That's doesn't mean they 'live in a fabricated fantasy land'. That's just the pc way to dehumanize people.

They are different people, and you need to see them as that if you actually care about them. Then you might be able to have honest, constructive conversations. People don't disagree with facts, they disagree with people.

And acting like they're stupid and you're God's smartest cookie is an easy way to get people to disagree with you.

Cheers.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

You're just being condescending and seem to have never interacted with them person to person. I live here. I deal with them daily. I have heard them double down on insane nonsense that I don't know if you could dream of.

90% of what you said are inferences you are making. I understand they are victims of propoganda. It doesn't seem like you do.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Oh I can see a victim of propaganda alright. Lmao.

[–] Ghis@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

I grew up in the rural deep south. You're dead fucking wrong. You can act like you're so intelligent, and that they don't do this, but they do. They absolutely fucking do.