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[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 39 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Because the moment they say that, the other side stops listening and dismisses them or worse, decide to target them.

Remember, politicians are people that go out in public spaces and speak to people and they themselves are terrified of the same event happening to them.

They want the other side to hear them denounce this unequivocally because otherwise, they become targets.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 22 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

It doesnt help though. All it does is justify Charlie's actions during his life and serves to sanewash him. The move would have been to not defund public education all those decades ago. Doing this now just legitimizes hate speech

[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 10 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (3 children)

That’s the problem with assassinating people. It makes the dead a martyr and helps legitimize their message because supporters get to memorialize the dead, but for opponents it becomes politically difficult and socially inappropriate to criticize. It’s why I always think assassination largely backfires and is not a smart political move. To build a political movement in a democracy, you want to accumulate grievances you can use against the other side, not inflict them so the other side can use them against you.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

You have a downvote but you aren't wrong. Though I do have to say it seems to be largely ineffective using grievances against the current Republican diaspora.

[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 4 points 17 hours ago

I think that is largely because the democrats are weak and terrible messengers.

[–] barooboodoo@lemmy.zip 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I guarantee you everyone will forget about Kirk dying a couple weeks from now, far from martyrdom. Facts don't mean anything to these brainwashed morons, one of their "grievances" is the "stolen election" for Christ's sake. Personally I'll endure a couple weeks of hypocritical crocodile tears from the right to never hear another racist/transphobic/moronic utterance from that puckered asshole he called a mouth for the rest of my natural life.

[–] shani66@ani.social 1 points 14 hours ago

Yep. This won't meaningfully raise the temperature, they will keep doing what they always do. However, this might actually improve things in the long run. He routinely targeted kids for indoctrination, without his influence things will improve.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah like when Rittenhouse murdered two people, am I right?

[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Rittenhouse is an idiot, but that wasn’t an assassination. His victims weren’t well known political voices.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 4 points 15 hours ago

It's so fucking clear he went there when the intent to murder someone.

They canonized him, gave him a speaking tour, turned him into a folk hero.

Did the two Minnesota legislator get turned into heros? Yeah I don't think so either.