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[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 36 points 5 days ago (9 children)

The non-American mind cannot conceive of living in a place so vast.

[–] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 24 points 5 days ago (7 children)

Europe is relatively small but their towns are waaay more compact because they were built before cars came around so most towns are already in favor of walking/biking distances.

But yeah America is huuuge. The drive from Paris to central Switzerland is about 12 and a half hours and it's a total change of scenery. For the US that's just California to Utah. Or Washington DC to Charleston SC.

What the US needs badly is high speed rail from city to city

[–] tyler@programming.dev 26 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I mean we do need that, but that has nothing to do with the problem. the majority of people don't live in those vast expanses of nothingness. Most of our cities are just as populated as most European cities, we just have shit laws around zoning, single family housing, population density, NIMBYs blocking any change, and people that think public transit is for poor people. They don't travel to other countries and so have no clue how good things could actually be.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

we just have shit laws around zoning

Yeah above all else I think that is the biggest issue. There are daft rules about the size of carparks that mean that, what would be a local store in the EU, becomes this vast strip mall in the US with 12 acres of parking lot to walk across so you can get your milk.

You practically need a car to just drive across the vast expanses of car infrastructure. Crossing the road in the US is something you have to plan your day around

[–] okwhateverdude@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

Yeah, it's a shithole country which is why I got rid of my car, let my driver's license expire, and left the country. Looking back, it was pretty prescient considering how fascism-y it has gotten there.

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