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[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io -4 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Look, it's not the 1600s. Idk if I'd call Portugal a major world power. I'd never heard the man's name before this. Anyways, yeah, that definitely happened.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He's head of a western european state of 10M people. Portugal is mid-tier when it comes to most metrics In the EU, but they're not no-one.

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, that's what I mean. I feel the same about Spain. Brazil is significantly more relevant than Portugal. They're no Luxembourg, but they're not Australia either.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Except being a LatAm country, they're dismissed by the west.

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You'd think so, and to an extent, you're right. But I hear about it quite a bit, more positive than negative. Portugal? Nope. Nothing. I'm not sure I could name a person or fictional character from Portugal. Brazil, I know at least a few.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Captain Rodriguez from Shōgun immediately came to mind for me. I prefer John Rhys-Davies's version over the newest on-screen rendition.

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I looked that up, since I've never heard of it, apparently he was Portuguese in that version, but he was turned Spanish in the most recent version. Damn, stealing the Portuguese rep they need. I'd like to know more about modern Portugal. I'll probably do a little bit of research today.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 4 points 2 months ago

No, still Portuguese. The show opens with a explainer saying the Spanish went west and Portuguese went east due to the church decreeing how the world would be split amongst the two countries.

Spaniards were half a world away.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’m not sure I could name a person or fictional character from Portugal.

You've never heard of Cristiano Ronaldo? I'm impressed, lucky you.

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 2 points 2 months ago

I don't keep track of Football, I didn't know he was from there. Unfortunately, he was one of the two living people on the list of Portuguese people I'd ever heard the name of, the other individual being Shawn Mendes, who was raised in Canada. I also knew two dead ones, Magellan and Vasco de Gama. Which are from when Portugal was more of a world power. I recognized the names of 6 famous Brazilians.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 months ago

You may feel that Spain is in the same league as Portugal, but by most metrics, it's objectively not. It's one of the EU's big 4, a top 20 economy, the world's 8th largest arms exporter, etc. Not a superpower, but definitely a power.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If an American doesn't say, "Who?" when you say their name, then they're a world power.

[–] whiwake@lemmy.cafe 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Portugal? You've never heard of the place?

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I've only heard of Jamón ibérico.

[–] whiwake@lemmy.cafe 1 points 2 months ago

Did I say place?

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I feel like most Americans might remember the name from history class, but that's about it.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Muricans have history classes?

[–] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Muricans have classes? In schools? I heard Trump ended it.

[–] saimen@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago

Murica still exists?

[–] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

Due to budget cuts, it's only story classes now.

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 3 points 2 months ago

Yes, we do. Most aren't very good. But they do exist.

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I must ask, why did you focus on Portugal part of this article?
Surely the most important part is that a world leader called another world leader a russian asset?

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 2 points 2 months ago

Probably because I heard about the news several days ago. I appreciate it though.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago

Idk if I’d call Portugal a major world power.

Clickbait title.

[–] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

That's why they used this term. If it were any place that you would unquestionably call a major world power, then they would have used the name on the title.