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I hope GrapheneOS guys will figure this out, as they usually do. Or someone else. Or at least we as a community would pay someone to make a truly free platform (pay me yay!)
because GrapheneOS at least allows to jail playstore and its emanations efficienlty, so one phone might be enough.
Still doesn't make sense to me to get a Google device (required for GrapheneOS) to "degoogle".
This only works because Google currently allows it. They could stop tomorrow and while you might be able to continue running GrapheneOS on a device where it's already installed, they can't magically update proprietary firmware for example.
While I was talking in another community about this topic (asking if GrapheneOS would get approached by a hardware vendor), another user mentioned that the team is currently in talks with an Android OEM to fulfill their security requirements for their upcoming device (2026-2027 estimation).
I don't know how to link comments on lemmy, sorry, but you can check my comment history for the conversation.
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Do you see the icons next to your username? You right click either one of them and copy the URL.
It's a different menu than your screenshot, but here's the link: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/16087016
I might be using a different client sorry, I'm on voyager. Let me check if there's an option.
My screenshot was for the web UI. On voyager you tap the three dots on the right side of the comment
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And then you select share
Got it already, TY for the follow up though :)
I think you misunderstand the reality. It's not about a small group of developers figuring things out. In a medium run, Google has the resources to close those back doors. The question is whether we can as a larger community create something strong enough to survive, or force regulators to issue another antitrust injunction.
I think there is potential for the latter, bearing in mind that Google has lost multiple antitrust lawsuits in the last few years. Clearly Google is only using this as a tool to restrict competition, and it's quite possible that courts will agree with my opinion. My view is that the AI bubble is a problem for their corporation, because they need to force it on people, but a lot of people don't want it. The reality is that cell phones today already do almost everything we would want cell phones to do. Except that most of us want better ad blocking and anti-spam features, which would cut into Google's bottom line. They know that they're trying to push things on us that we don't want, and if we have easy alternatives, they will lose business on a massive scale.
Regulators will be helpless if we keep buying our chains, that's all there is really. It woul be unethical to forbid self-harm, right? And vice versa, if we all just support the good guys, who needs regulators?