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Ex-pastor at Pete Hegseth’s church calls for public executions and says Bible backs ICE raids
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Leviticus 19:33-34
Exodus 22:21
Deuteronomy 4:2
Seems pretty straightforward to me.
before i whip this out on the family, i know the first thing they'll ask, "is that the old testament?"
I love how they pull that nonsense, when it's convenient. But then want the "ten commandments" put up on public land, etc....derrrrrrrp.
It’s almost as if they don’t have any actual beliefs and the rest of you should stop treating them like they do.
I enjoy asking people to name all ten commandments whenever they bring that shit up - they can never do it. "Uhhhhhh ... do not cover thy ass?"
I'd respond that the parable of the Good Samaritan is specifically showing a "foreigner" (eh, nuance is hard) as the only person who helped the injured man, but that requires critical thinking and some historical context, so basically useless...
They took er jobs!
Matthew 5:17-20
Jesus himself literally says follow the law (of Moses, OT shit) until heaven and earth fucking die, and anyone that doesn't follow it won't see heaven.
thanks for this! I will definitely be sure to keep that in the utility belt!
I always remember the "jot and tittle" thing.
Especially when some xtian starts up with me about a vegetarian diet based on that Matthew quote about "it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person" as if I give two flying fucks what "the" bible says about morality or diet anyway...but I'll ask them about why they eat pork and shellfish and they'll use the "but that's the OT" thing.
If they know a thing or two about old worn out chestnuts, they'll claim they have some "new covenant" with their god and that things like that are only "rabbinical law". But, whoops, his character is made to say that entire "jot and tittle" business! Uh-oh, sorry, no pork chops, guys. And no cheeseburgers! Hey, it's YOUR holy text, not mine...
I've had two conversations like this where the xtian pulled out that dumb Matthew quote when they find out I'm vegetarian (IRL, I don't really share this unless necessary in group settings, and I definitely don't proselytize) - not sure how they started applying that to vegetarians, but it seems to be a thing? I don't run in evangelical circles, but I imagine one of their thought leaders started with that...anyway, they didn't like me pointing out the jot and tittle thing. Doesn't really leave much wiggle room despite the claims of the "new covenant" and jacking your jaw about "rabbinical law".
Check out Deconstruction zone and DZDebates on YouTube. Guy was a Christian for 20 years, went to seminary, learned greek and biblical Hebrew so he could read the Bible in the original languages, and through his study became an atheist. He is the least "debate-lord" atheist I've seen and has genuinely engaging conversations with people when they're polite. When they're belligerent though he roasts them with Bible verses.
Reading the bible page by page, front to back made me an atheist. Reading it all the second time gave me the data points I need to rip right through any argument I have ever heard them use.
beautiful, thank you!
Just tell them to be Jews or Muslims if they don't like the new testament
It's quite a leap to assume that any of these people have actually read the bible.
Surprised you didn't mention Jesus and his family fleeing Judea to save him when Herod ordered all male children killed