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[โ€“] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

not until we actually stop using fossil fuels. we are still using more fossil fuels than ever. And when/if renewables actually start eating into the fossil fuel market, then fossil fuels will get cheaper. So either we are going to burn through most of our fossil fuels regardless, or we will eventually need to take some kind of punitive actions against using them.

anyway, you'd think republicans would be on board with renewables for exactly the same reasons as china. it makes economic and national security sense if that's all you care about.

[โ€“] halfsalesman@piefed.social 6 points 23 hours ago

Only up to a point, fossil fuels getting cheaper will reach a point where it wont be worth extraction outside of for niche customers.

If renewables become plentiful and cheap enough globally fossil fuels will more or less die off in use, even if right now they're going upward in use its temporary. The problem is we're stuck with severe consequences even if they do eventually largely stop. We're stuck with severe consequences if they stop this very instant in fact.

What we really want is renewable energy to become so cheap and plentiful that not only do fossil fuels stop being used but carbon capture technology's high energy cost becomes null and it just becomes a net good. ATM the technology is useless because the high energy cost ends up just putting more co2 into the air anyway than is removed.

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