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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -4 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I'm here wondering what exactly does OP want because other systems tend to be more abusive towards workers and nowadays people screaming they don't want any work but all the benefits just sounds like lazy gen-z bums who watched too many tiktoks about how communism is utopia

Capitalism in itself isn't inherently bad. It gets bad when the government does not put enough regulations, anti-trust/monopolistic laws in place, lacks in social systems/wealth distribution/taxing the rich, etc.. Plenty of capitalist countries who are doing just fine. US is a good example about how not to do capitalism if you care about the people.

[–] Squiddork@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I disagree capitalism requires a bottom class that has to suffer for it to function, that makes it an inherently bad system regardless of government intervention.

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Can you explain me why? Like I said, if government does it's job and wealth distribution works, then no one really needs to suffer

[–] Squiddork@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There has to be someone without to create the demand for capitalism to work, I totally support what you're saying and in a perfect world those people wouldn't suffer but there is still an imbalance of power between capitalists and workers and that tension means both sides have to be perpetually hyper vigilant in protecting their own interests against each other.

Mind you, I don't think communism is a good system either; humanity should be considering new forms of governance given our technological advancements have solved a lot of problems that these systems initially intended to.

Anyway that's my perspective, appreciate you asking for an elaboration hopefully it's some food for thought even if you don't agree with me.

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 3 points 4 days ago

There has to be someone without to create the demand for capitalism to work

I feel like that is generated naturally by pretty much everyone who has money, which is where wealth distribution plays a major role. Even if you work low paid job, there should be (ideally of course) tax cuts, reasonable minimal wage even if your job does not generate minimum wage value (and not too low), bunch of social programs, including free public transport, ectera ectera, essentially making everyone contribute to moving money around, instead of hoarding it or paying only for food/water.

there is still an imbalance of power between capitalists and workers and that tension means both sides have to be perpetually hyper vigilant in protecting their own interests against each other.

Understandable, but can you imagine a society without some form of class hierchy, especially when it's clear some people are naturally intelligent, while others are saved by "water is slippery" sign? It sounds like a society without competition. I get what you're saying, I just can't imagine something better and I understand if what I just said sounds controversial.