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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 20 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Socialism in america only exists for corporations. "Hey bankers! Screwed up again? Here's more money to play with."

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

I appreciate the sentiment, but the public sector supporting the private is not "socialism." Socialism describes an economic formation where public ownership is primary in an economy, ie where large firms are publicly owned and controlled. Segments of an economy cannot be Socialist or Capitalist just like an arm cannot be a human, it can only exist in the context of the whole.

Socialism, in reality, refers to a broader economy where public ownership is primary, while Capitalism refers to a broader economy where private ownership is primary. All Socialist societies have had public and private Capital, and all Capitalist societies have had public and private Capital, it matters most which one has the power.

I recommend reading my post here on common problems people run into when determining Modes of Production.

[–] eurisko@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Original commenter: jokes in class solidarity

Response: « I appreciate the attempt, but what you said was wrong on sooooo many levels, in this essay, I will... »

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

There is legitimately a problem with miscommunication on the Left, getting on the same page helps information flow more effectively.

[–] eurisko@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I understand what you mean, really. I just think the methods of circulating that info can sometimes seem or feel ecclesiastic.

In my opinion, context and rhetoric matter. That's why I joked a little. But I don't mean no harm, truly. And I appreciate what you do.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

That's of course a fair point, and I did laugh, I am extremely guilty of "essay posting" and try to minimize that when I can while still getting my point across. And I appreciate the compliments, too! Right now there is a big influx of new users from Reddit, so I'm being more of a stickler than usual as in my experience this legitimately does have an impact on the broader stances on Lemmy, given its size.

[–] eurisko@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 minutes ago (1 children)

I see ! Thank you for that :)

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 minutes ago

No problem! Have a good one! 🫡

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

That's state welfare/insurance, not socialism.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

A rose is a rose is a rose. I get your point though. Terms must be defined specifically in order to hold academic discussions. Welfare is called socialism by some.

[–] NostraDavid@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

The USA actually spends several billions, if not trillions on Medicare (meant for the old) and Medicaid (meant for the poor, and single mothers, and young children) combined.

In 2023, the federal government spent about $848.2 billion on Medicare, accounting for 14% of total federal spending.

source - and that's just Medicare.

I agree with you that it's weird that corporations get a bailout, instead of selling the company to competitors, but no need to act like the USA doesn't spend a TON of money on its citizens, keeping their head above water :)

[–] bufalo1973@lemm.ee 2 points 22 minutes ago
[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 2 points 34 minutes ago

That's because the American healthcare system is infected with middle men parasites.