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Wayland Will Never Be Ready For Every X11 User (hackaday.com)

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[–] pglpm@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

lack of global hotkeys in Wayland, graphics tablet support issues, OBS not supporting embedded browser windows, Japanese and other foreign as well as onscreen keyboard support issues that are somehow worse than on X11, no support for overscanning monitors or multiple mouse cursors, no multi-monitor fullscreen option, regressions with accessibility, inability of applications to set their (previously saved) window position, no real automation alternative for xdotool, lacking BSD support and worse input latency with gaming.

All things that don't matter to modern users.

[–] spartanatreyu@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago

The top comment in the linked article pointed out how that chunk of text was less than truthful:

There’s definitely regressions that need to be fixed, but the way it is presented here is just misinformation, mixing things like project-specific bugs and misunderstandings in as Wayland problems.

*BSD is officially supported by Wayland and by several display servers (a better state than for X11 where the *BSD’s had to patch things quite extensively downstream), the graphics tablet thing is a KDE-specific bug, and global hotkeys is available in some display servers through XDG portals (albeit a bit slowly), and using multiple independent mouse cursors is very specifically a Wayland feature (wayland multi-seat). Restoring window state is also supported, it just works differently than X11, and sway at least supports global fullscreen the same way as i3. [...]

The other comments pick out the other issues the top comment didn't go through.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 4 points 1 day ago

Yes for many it's not. Lots of those issues, while actual issues. Are niche issues. Issues I've personally had brushes with in many cases. As someone who's used Linux and BSD since the early 90s. I know I'm not the average user these days. And I know X had it's own similar issues over the years. Still does. For the average person using a single screen who doesn't steam Etc. Wayland provides a very good experience. All the edge issues will be addressed individually as they were with X.

While I would like to see BSD support as well. Part of that is on the BSD devs and community. Many who are against it. There's lots of areas BSD is unfortunately falling behind in. But that's not everyone else's problem. I would love to be able to run a BSD desktop. But it simply doesn't have the software or support I look for. And that's okay