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Nearly 100 orgs plead for homegrown lifeline amid geopolitical tensions

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[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

This is surprisingly myopic from someone who supposedly works in the field.

Where do your full stack applications run, my friend?

Because unless you're in China or Russia, the answer is either AWS, Azure or Google Cloud.

Nobody is looking to reinvent the wheel. The call is for the EU to invest heavily in infrastructure, like building its own chips, creating its own data centres, and yes, developing its software industry to provide alternatives to all the proprietary/closed stuff.

[–] Bjornir@programming.dev 17 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Nobody is forcing you to use the cloud, you can host your apps on your infrastructure. Of course the cloud has its uses, but I think it is way overutilized and many companies could save quite a lot of money if they returned to on premises.

[–] TheHobbyist@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Running on prem is certainly possible, but requires a dedicated sysadmin team for anything serious. It is very important to be able to have availability guarantees and some expert you can count on to solve your problem with a phone call.

[–] khapyman@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's really not that hard. I'm the IT department for a medium sized bakery operation. Around 200 employees. This just means that I'm available when it really is necessary. I'm in situ or on call when orders come in and when shipments go out.

In the end I'm cheaper than outsourcing all the in house software and hardware. And I'm available at 3am when the bakers do their thing.

And yeah, I do have somebody somewhat trained in every bakery. When they're at end of their wit I'm the person they call.

In the end, I'm around 1% of the payroll. IT is not that special.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Brother. I work in a company with 10k workers. The company loses thousands of dollars per second of downtime, if it's something that affects the availability of the main page or the checkout process.

If that happens during the peak season, it could be hundreds of thousands per second.

With those kinds of stakes, you don't just jerry rig your hosting, and very frequently, you don't take your chances with in-housing.

You put it in one of the big 3, because they don't fail, and if they do fail you, you sue their ass.

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