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[–] fishos@lemmy.world 0 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Someone else posted what it means. It means 10m² living space per person, 4 people share 20m² for bathroom and kitchen, you don't eat meat, you wash tops every ~3 days and bottoms every ~14 days(laundry is shared with ~20 people). Something like 4 people are expected to share a laptop with specs that were cutting edge 15 years ago.

It is a MAJOR downgrade from how most people live, even those in poverty, and is just not appealing to all but the most minimalist of people. It more akin to living in an RV or "van life"(except you're not supposed to have a car in this situation either - public transportation only).

[–] astutemural@midwest.social 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Well, thanks for sharing misinformation.

Meanwhile, in the actual study (provided free via any search engine of your choice):

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Also directly from the study you didn't read:

"It is important to understand that the DLS represents a minimum floor for decent living. It does not represent a an aspirational standard and certainly does not represent a ceiling. However, it is also a level of welfare not currently achieved by the vast majority of people. A new paper by Hoffman et al finds that 96.5 percent of people in low- and middle-income countries are deprived of at least one DLS dimension."

So no, nobody is coming to take your gaming rig, and no, the majority of people on Earth would get an UPGRADE in living conditions, not a downgrade.

Here is a link if you cannot access a search engine.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

So you're a condescending asshole. That's all. I'm not gonna engage with you further. Have a day as wonderful as yourself. I will note that everything is said was in your picture. Douche.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It's also ignoring the fact that we have already surpassed the limitations of what the nitrogen cycle could normally provide. So we would still be relying on fertilizers produced with fossil fuels.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 0 points 15 hours ago

Absolutely.

Also, whenever I see "humans only really need X" I always think of Bill Gates saying no one will ever need more than 640kb of RAM. Sure, today no one will, but tomorrow someone who was held back by that previous number will see the new number and be able to complete a new task and suddenly that will be the new "baseline". A 1.4mb floppy used to store dozens/hundreds of text files. Now a .jpeg takes up more space. You can't just settle on some number without commiting to becoming left behind as things progress.