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As with all other scientific things someone knows more than me, but I will give my opinion.
The last step is the greatest weakness. The result has to somehow be sent to the website and verified. If you have physical access to the device doing the verification then it will eventually be spoofed. A man in the middle attack would be easy enough given that the device absolutely has to go via a network the user controls.
Beyond the transmission issues, biologically there are not any markers that are a clear and simple age measure. Most biomarkers are more of a range with ages that correlate to some degree. You could say for example testosterone, but that goes up through puberty from a baseline in kids to an adult level, but the adult levels are really varied. Some people are higher than others and some XX people have higher testosterone levels than some XY people, and visa versa for oestrogen. So with the sex hormones out, you would want something that accumulates over time. Unfortunately that is going to vary by where a person lives and what they are exposed to. Honestly it is not at all workable.
That said, a simple solution which would make much more sense than any of this crap is to just have something on the internet account end. If the ISP can offer a check box for "Block adult sites and services" and people can opt in to that then kids will only get access to the full internet when their parents allow it or they are old enough to have their own device on their own internet plan.
If the government want to make a system to protect kids from adult stuff on the internet that is great. If they make it opt in that is all fine with me. But if they make it something you have to verify your age for, using things like state issued ID or facial inspection by an algorithm, then I think it is disastrous. It will be circumvented rapidly by people who are old enough to verify but simply do not want to. That technique will be shared with kids. Kids will be able to bypass it. This nanny state approach is not actually about protecting kids in my opinion. I think the companies involved will use the data, the face images for during verification, as training data for AI models, use the licence data for various profit driven business activities, and in the process make us all less secure. They will eventually have a leak or hack that exposes your data including what site you were on and your licence. The only question is when.
Tbh honest I am against the idea of blocking gov blocking websites.
Parents should be responsible for their kids online presence and exploration using existing tools for such control. For that though people would have to know how to use such tools and unfortunately many do not and there is a lack of programs to teach the parents how to use them.
But I agree with u I am overcomplicating things, was just letting my mind wander and now I am realising that a simple gov generated token or a key with which we could generate such token and pass it to website would be the easier and most logical way like a user pointed out.
This whole ID and face recon honestly could be replaced such system and I would be OK with it.