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You mad?
Yes, to support everyone on what our economy outputs today will involve the quality of life decreasing for a lot of people. And the economy will have to change, to build the things that people need but are currently unable to pay for. This is unsurprising.
Probably the living space is more to show this is feasible over it being the expected/desired solution. It would be very counterproductive to tear down good houses, but small apartments work well for "house single unhoused people".
Rural transport is a rounding error compared to the number of private cars that could be converted with minimal fuss in cities.
Why would an export economy be a bad model? They literally have a surplus; all you need to do to fix it is.... Make less?
I'm not mad. I will just not allow anyone to reduce my living standards because they don't want to use a rubber.
A export model is not bad. I just said that's unreasonable to think that all the world could follow that model. Because then "who would we export to?". It's like liberals thinking that the tax rate in a tax heaven are proof that every country could have those tax haven rates. Good for them, that the model worked, but for some country to export other country needs to import, that's all. Chinese economic growth have been very linked to being the world factory. That's great, but it could not be assumed that all the world could just do the same.
Who said anything about using a rubber? Or not? Let's properly support the people that exist now.
And do you think that's likely to happen any time soon in the real world?
It's all well and good coming up with theories on paper but if your theories only work on paper, then don't count them as solved.
Well a good first step for helping the people who exist now live decent lives would be to scrap your car and ban your meat.
Cool cool. So how have people taken this lifestyle advice so far? Have they been receptive to it? How many vegans who don't drive, do you know? Because I only know one, me.
Forcing this behavioral change in people might be the only way... but I think that's called fascism, no?
Hey ho, anything to save our awful species though. So, who do you have in mind as dictator in your region? I bet cars being confiscated and forced veganism is going to go down a treat with your neighbours.
No, fascism is an ideology based in the myth of palingenetic ultranationalism, characterised by 14 traits including such concepts as "machismo", "the cult of action", and "the enemy is strong and weak".
Forming a vigilante mob to smash rich people's stuff is perfectly compatible with anarchism. Voting to ban the sale of cars at the federal level is a more moderate option palatable to capitalist liberals, and also not fascism.
So anarchist vigilantes smashing rich people's stuff is in line with your government?
Your government who you trust to ignore industry lobby money but also vote majorities, is going to ban the sale of cars?
Where the fuck do you live and how is this government of yours even worse than the laughing stock Trump's is?
And why would rich people not hire armies to protect themselves from these government sanctioned droves of roaming '"""anarchist"""' vigilantes out to smash their stuff?
Well obviously we organise into armed militias and overthrow the government in a communist revolution first.
What are you doing on slrpnk.net?
Oh bless, that's so cute and just utterly fucking hysterical. I'm struggling not to ask if you're 14 and have just discovered Marx. Wow, I genuinely haven't laughed this hard in a while, that was a work out.
I'm on slrpnk.net because I've been following climate science for probably longer than you've been alive.
I'm actually 8 and I already have two PhDs. I also beat Shaq in a game of half court and I helped invent the Pfizer COVID vaccine.
Good for you Genius, I wish you luck organising your anarcho-communist militias and forming the authoritarian dictatorships of your dreams.
They’re not mad, they’re just a bad person. Don’t use empathy in argument with someone who has none.
Also, those numbers are like averages. Some places would have high rises to accommodate the sheer numbers of people, working or non-working.
But yeah, I’d tear down my own fucking home right meow if it was for equality on a massive scale.
A bad person? For what? For not wanting to live in a tiny bedsit just so the world can accommodate more theoretical people that don't exist and need not exist?
Definitely use empathy on someone who has none. That's how they practice.
Even seeing somebody else do it neurologically strengthens those circuits in the brain. This is the actual front line, the human brain, and saying not to USE EMPATHY ON PEOPLE WHO HAVE NONE is a command to retreat in the very moment it is your turn to act.