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Please, don't post articles "this/that store ban nsfw content": it's payment system (like Visa/MasterCard) that want to regulate/take control of censorship above your government. (lemmy.ca)

submitted 2 days ago by alessandro@lemmy.ca to c/pcgaming@lemmy.ca

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More than a request, I think it's a deserving clarification. We're getting mob outrage against Valve, Itch.io etc... while it's just Visa/MasterCard/Paypal laughing on everyone back.

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[–] obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

So you have a pair of strawmen there.

I'm not advocating for a single solution today to ensure the continued existance of the company. A supplementary strategy is completely viable and could be implemented in the short term. They have the all the resources they could possibly need from a technical and legal framework already. They may need to tinker with the financial backend, but it's hardly an insurmountable challenge. If they can figure out proton, they can figure out plugging one of 1000 existing solutions into their checkout (Before we have another strawman I'm not saying those are the same thing, I'm saying they have a history of being smart, resourceful, problem solvers).

If that off the cuff, apples to oranges, example is too silly by a third, how about the entire US canibus industry? They've been prohibited from using the federal banking system and seem to be making ends meet alright.

If you work in the space then you know they're going to have more and better solutions down the line. The EU is looking for solutions to circumvent the big US processors. Alipay and WeChat pay can already circumvent US credit card processors, and have made significant inroads in the US.

I'm not advocating for trying to split content by payment processor. Though I know others have. Right now they probably have to comply and they will need to continue using the major payment processors for the foreseeable future, but while those payment processors can prohibit "immoral" content, they can not prohibit Valve from including, and promoting competing payment solutions. They probably can't even stop them from giving other processors preferential treatment.

I AM taking the position that unless they do something... Anything... A first turn out of the driveway to be 10% less dependent on alternative means of payment processing, there will never be a path to being 100% free from coersion.

They could be doing things today and right now it doesn't look like they are.

Valve is estimated to be a multi billion dollar organization with a per head profit of 3.5 million. They have an extremely captive audience that's deeply financially invested in the platform and would jump through a lot of hoops to keep using it. Pretending they're helpless and shouldn't be troubled to start steering in a pro-consumer direction just because they don't have a 100% solution today is defeatist bullshit.