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[–] StarMerchant938@lemmy.world 81 points 1 day ago (4 children)

"She's probably right." "Dude was probably violent." "Easier to give up your guns than fight this in court" "Just give up your guns!"

Lmao wowww lemmy. Nobody here likes due process?

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Lot of US leftists and liberals hate guns, as a reaction to the right’s obsession with them.

It is a stupid and dangerous reaction, because they give up their means of self-defense against far right militias and a fascist government.

[–] StarMerchant938@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You're spot on. I lean HARD left myself and still I'm actively advocating all my friends go out and purchase a firearm while they can. Not for some far fetched rebellion against tyranny, but simply to protect themselves from getting hate-crimed by the scum who will inevitably feel they've been given permission to do so by this regime. Furthermore if they do start deporting citizens for undesirable political behavior, I know I'd rather be six feet under than in CECOT or South Sudan.

[–] zzx@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Exactly. I'm fully capable of both owning a gun and advocating for gun control at the same time... People act like you're a traitor to the cause.

😂 right! Like the fascist government that is now taking hold of the US. Not fascist enough to defend themselves yet?

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago

No, lots of liberal hate guns. Lots of leftists are either anarchist or communist, both of which support arming the populace. Many socialists support gun ownership as well.

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

I don't hate guns, I hate the "gun rights" movements and there fetishization of a skewed interpretation of the second amendment where any individual has the unalieanable right to own a gun.

Even if a violent revolution were to happen, which odds are 99 to 1 it wont happen in the US in our lifetimes, then people like op hoarding guns aren't going to help. A well regulated militia might but that requires social organization and discipline, which most people in the gun rights movement don't have the time or willingness for.

They aren't serious about using guns to defend liberty, they just like the aesthetic of it and make it part of there personality. So much so that they get offended by dumb and probably made up stories like this but not the countless other similar stories where there were no red flag laws and the gf gets killed.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Then they post about how the gun owners aren't doing anything to stop the fascist government. Yea, you've been alienating them for decades. They're not on your side.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 3 points 19 hours ago

They're saying that ironically because the gun fetishists always excused their behavior with fighting tyranny. Then matched in goose-step to vote for a tyrant

[–] absentbird@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I think we just don't like guns.

Eh, the cops are worse than the guns.

Don't be disarming when gestapo in roaming the streets.

(But Anon probably supports the gestapo tho... 🤷‍♂️)

[–] the_elder@midwest.social 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Speak for yourself. God forbid men should have a hobby.

[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are you really pretending this is about men having hobbies?

[–] the_elder@midwest.social 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I use my rifles for hunting. Some people like collecting and sport shooting. Some have theirs for self defense in higher crime areas because they can't afford better. So yeah?

[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It can be a hobby, sure. But men having a hobby isnt was was being discussed at all. Nobody cares about men having hobbies, the issue is when this hobby is a potential threat to other people. Isnt this rather obvious?

[–] the_elder@midwest.social 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You know exactly as much as I do about this hypothetical situation. Girlfriend cheats. Guy breaks up. Girl calls cops. Guy gets guns confiscated. If your argument is nothing more than "Well maybe he deserved it" you're an asshole.

[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thats just not what im saying.

[–] the_elder@midwest.social -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It sure feels like what you're saying is that due process goes out the window for things you don't like.

[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Where you got that from? Looks like your imagining a whole other discussion there

[–] the_elder@midwest.social 6 points 1 day ago

I'm probably just incredibly disillusioned and mad at the state of the world and the lack of nuance on the internet these days and taking it out on you. My apologies.

Lemmy wants it easier for cops to take away your guns, but simultaneously distrust the cops and want to abolish the police. So which is it lol?

But then again, this is 4chan so Anon probably is on the side of the tyrants anyways; they think they're part of "the good ones".