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‘They will vote against Harris’: Arab Americans in Michigan desert Democrats over Gaza
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this post was submitted on 14 Oct 2024
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Ranked choice will not save anyone, nor is it even going to be established in the US.
Except where it IS implemented... Like legalizing weed, same slow ass path. A few liberal areas do it, slow or scared folks see it is beneficial, it spreads, it becomes a topic at the federal level and has caught on enough that it is just an inevitably....assuming the government doesn't somehow become christofascist because of some ignorant morons....but that is an edge case.
This does not logically follow. Policy is not implemented because it is "popular" or "talked about," but because it serves a material interest to the corporate donors of the DNC and GOP.
Is that your analysis of fascism? That it exists because of Chrisitanity, and Christianity exists because someone thought of it?
Fascism is Capitalism in decay. It's a violent defense mechanism, not a mold that infects people's minds. America is heading down the fascist path regardless of who is in power because Capitalism is dying.
First bit is what has actually happened. Second bit isn't "an analysis" and your last paragraph would have Voltare rolling, but also isn't relevant. Out of morbid curiosity, I'd love to hear your fantasy world path forward for the country.
It benefits the DNC and GOP to let minor implementations of a toothless change pass so that people feel like they are making a differance.
Second bit is absolutely analysis, you claimed fascism happens if the fascists get elected. Where did the fascists come from, and why would they get elected?
As for a path forward, I'm a Communist, revolution is necessary. Join an org like FRSO or PSL.
Which successful communist country should your America emulate?
Communism isn't about picking a model and copying it, that idea was abandoned in the 1800s. Engels wrote an entire essay on it, Socialism: Utopian and Scientific. We can look to AES states and see where they found success and failure, but no AES state thus far has come from anything comparable to the 2024 US Empire's unique material conditions and productive structures, so obviously we can't copy any one country one to one, nor would we want to.
It could be if enough people pushed for it, like they should, since it's objectively better in every way from first past the post, and would actually make doing things like this work.
How does that translate into reality? More people want Medicare For All and legalized weed, and even abortion rights. It isn't as simple as saying "it could be if enough people pushed for it," the parties don't operate on public will.
Do you believe no legislation has ever been passed due to public will?
I believe what drives the direction of the parties is maintaining their position and appeasing their donors. Legislation that fits popular will but goes against the former drives, like RCV, are a fantasy.
https://thefga.org/research/ranked-choice-voting-partisan-plot-to-disrupt-elections/
Great, it works out for the democrats, we just need it to be popular.
It doesn't, really. You'll see when it fizzles out.
Additonally, we can see even in other countries with RCV that it doesn't majorly improve things, RCV isn't a panacea, the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie still dominates the electoral system.
I never said it was a panacea, I said you'd be able to vote for better candidates without risk, currently it makes no sense to vote for candidates that have no chance of winning.
if it fizzles out It'll be because of republicans, that many bills in that short of a time is not insignificant
i don't understand why you're arguing against ranked choice, it's objectively and obviously better than fptp
do you think voting jill stein has a higher chance of success even though it's mathematically impossible?
if everyone doing that instead pushed for ranked choice, maybe you'd get some actual long term results instead of just throwing your vote away
I'm not arguing against RCV, I'm arguing against the idea that
1: it will ever pass, and
2: the idea that if it passed, it would change anything.
Revolution is necessary, something you'd think was obvious given your username.
https://thefga.org/research/ranked-choice-voting-partisan-plot-to-disrupt-elections/
you're wrong there, by your own reasoning, it would be hugely beneficial for the democrats to pass ranked choice.
Of course it would change things, you're clearly all or nothing, but the fact of the matter is ranked choice voting is OBJECTIVELY a better system, and it would allow you to actually run candidates and potentially make meaningful change. You would never have to hopelessly strategically vote and end up accomplishing nothing, you could have a socialist candidate that you could freely vote for without helping fascists. This is massive even if you refuse to acknowledge it.
I agree, revolution is necessary to fix everything, but I don't think revolution is more realistic than passing ranked choice voting, because i'm not braindead. The fact is, passing ranked choice would still be of great benefit to the working class, just because it doesn't become your ideal utopia overnight doesn't mean ranked choice doesn't matter at all and isn't worth doing.
By your own logic, if no policy has ever benefitted the american people without a revolution, why did the ACA pass?
I've seen your article, I doubt it will happen. The ACA was passed in the most incomplete and gutted form possible that dramatically benefitted the pharmaceutical industry.
And no, I'm a Marxist, not a Utopian. I understand that building takes time, I just understand that we have little control of what gets passed without outside pressure.