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[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We care that they are held to account, because it would be the first time. We are tired of it.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Unless you are a child survivor of sexual abuse at the hands of the ultra wealthy, you and I are not the we in this story. The survivors are, and I believe the point being made was that nobody who is obsessed with the Epstein list is 1/10th as concerned with making sure the survivors have what they need to recover and thrive to whatever extent is possible.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We is this whole society where powerful people can do whatever they want. Of course we, society, care about the victims. We, society, want powerful people held to account SO IT STOPS FUCKING HAPPENING. Get out of here with this bullshit acting like trying to hold powerful people accountable for their crimes is somehow unvirtuous.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone -3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I have bad news for you: you will never be able to arrest your way out of child rape and it’s not only the ultra wealthy that do it. And making angry comments on the internet at people pointing out that the victims need to be acknowledged in this is not trying to “hold powerful people to account for their crimes.”

You should ask yourself what makes you so mad about centering victims even 1/10th as much as centering punishing pedos, because that was the bar I set. Not half as much, not a third as much, not to the exclusion of talking about punishment at all.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

This isn't something people usually want attention for. Let's not punish the victims even more.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 4 points 2 days ago

You are completely full of shit and you should be ashamed of yourself.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 days ago

I get your point, but I guess since the pedo rape orgies are most likely still ongoing, your daughter could be kidnapped and end up in a room with Trump, so to a degree, we are in it.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Um, I think the leadership of a dangerous, somewhat unpredictable, and very globally connected country being either pedophiles or pedophile supporters does impact everyone, even me as a dude in Canada. I do want the victims to be taken care of, and part of that involves proving, beyond all doubt, that they were hurt and showing not just them but everyone that we’re not going to let the people who hurt them get away with it. I’m so fucking over rich people paying bogus settlements and getting to continue on living the high life and abusing people. I want to see them face real consequences.

Absolutely we’re all the “we” in the story. For different reasons and to different degrees but this involves all of us.