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“I think it’s going to require a little bit less navel-gazing and a little less whining and being in fetal positions. And it’s going to require Democrats to just toughen up,” Obama said at the fundraiser

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[–] piefood@feddit.online 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

lol, you are. You are literally saying he's not such a bad guy, because he killed less people.

I don't disagree that wars are sometimes a necessary evil, but that wasn't the case under Obama. He got into power, and continued on with Bush's policy of unnecessary war. He could have stopped, but he chose to continue.

You can keep saying that he had no power all you want, but he did, and you saying "nu-uh" doesn't change that fact.

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I'm saying he deescalated a very awful military campaign that was branded "the war on terror" and was just one of many wars caused by intelligent agency bullshit when Obama was literally just of age to vote.

It's not a question of necessary evil it's a question of spinning plates. Stopping it too fast and it'll fall to the floor and all those children you use as an argument piece so fucking cruelly and stupidly go with it.

He had power. The president especially under Obama with such a hostile Congress/infrastructure around him cannot just declare the end of a war. Congress funds and declares war. The best Obama could do was deescalate, take action to reduce casualties and attempt to set up some sort of government he can even TRY to broker peace with.

And so he does that pretty well I believe and your ass is being a dick about it. Criticize all you want but do so correctly.

Scroll through this entire thread and look at how many morons are using words like warmonger and acting like he's the one killing kids. Then look at how fox news portrays Obama. You think they're not somewhat related?

Trump abolished the ability to know how many children he even bombed and Bush caused more destruction and death than Obama.

[–] piefood@feddit.online 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I never said he could just immediately stop the wars. And Trump and Bush being warmongers does not mean that Obama wasn't a warmonger. All three of them were warmongers.

If you can't defend your position, thats fine, but stop making up stuff that I never said.

He could have done a lot, but chose to make jokes about the people he killed. That doesn't sound like he tried very hard, especially when he continued torturing innocent people, and continued bombing kids.

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 1 points 14 hours ago

I disagree Obama being a warmonger makes no sense. When Russia invaded Georgia and there was a push to go to war. Did we?