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[โ€“] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 37 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (18 children)

And to put the power value of 800 Watt in relation: An average human is unlikely to go with more than 150 Watt over a sustained period. If you put this into this web computer:

http://kreuzotter.de/deutsch/speed.htm

http://kreuzotter.de/english/espeed.htm

you get a speed of 27 km/h for a road bike. If you put 800 Watt in for such a bike, you get a speed of 49 km/h (which in Germany is the general inside-village speed limit which is anachronistically high, and is slowly being replaced by 30 km/h where you have bicycles, pedestrisns, or schools).

That also means that an e-bike with 800 Watt power is actually a light motorcycle, with all the associated risks.

[โ€“] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org -1 points 2 days ago (12 children)

Then again, if a car with 200'000 Watts of power rolls through the same 30 km/h zone no one cares. So why should we care about bicycles?

[โ€“] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (11 children)

Because we don't fall for whataboutism?

It's no question that car speeds in cities are going down - and need to go down for safety. And that's no reason at all to make e-bikes significantly faster and make things less safe.

And by the way: Further reducing the speed limits for cars, and making more space for normal bikes, including dedicated bike roads, would achieve exactly what most people which argue for higher e-bike speed limits presumably want: You get much faster to your destination. Again, the European bicycle capitals like Copenhagen, Amsterdam and Paris show how it is done.

[โ€“] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Exactly my point. The power of the vehicle is not relevant because the speed limit always applies.

I'd rather have a 1kW bicycle at 30 km/h than a 200kW car at the same speed.

Are you trolling?

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