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[–] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Because we don't fall for whataboutism?

It's no question that car speeds in cities are going down - and need to go down for safety. And that's no reason at all to make e-bikes significantly faster and make things less safe.

And by the way: Further reducing the speed limits for cars, and making more space for normal bikes, including dedicated bike roads, would achieve exactly what most people which argue for higher e-bike speed limits presumably want: You get much faster to your destination. Again, the European bicycle capitals like Copenhagen, Amsterdam and Paris show how it is done.

[–] asbestos@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Wrong. More watts doesn’t mean faster. Bosch eBikes go up to 750W but are locked at 25km/h. The power is used for uphill climbing ability and responsiveness to leg torque input.
His point also stands. My car has 180.000 Watts and can easily go over 250km/h. Why isn’t it banned?

[–] trepX@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Because you need a driver's licence for that car, but not an E-Bike. And you can't use that car on segregated green lanes in cities amidst other cyclists and pedestrians.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Also, they aren’t plated, and so can’t be ticketed by speed cameras like a car can.

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Incorrect. A licence, registration, and insurance is required for electrically assisted bicycles capable of exceeding 25 km/h.

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

And such an s-pedelec, by law, is no bicicle and thus, generally not allowed on dedicated bike lanes. So what's your point?

(Additionally, by e-bike they probably mean a 25 km/h limited pedelec, which is called E-Bike in German law.)

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org -4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I was responding to the requirement of a licence for a car, if you read the comment chain

[–] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You called it a bicycle, which is wrong and moreover confusing the discussion.

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago

That was not my intention, I will edit the comment to make it clearer

[–] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

For other motor vehicles, license and insurance is required if they exceed 6km/h.

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Exactly my point. The power of the vehicle is not relevant because the speed limit always applies.

I'd rather have a 1kW bicycle at 30 km/h than a 200kW car at the same speed.

[–] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago

Are you trolling?