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“I think it’s going to require a little bit less navel-gazing and a little less whining and being in fetal positions. And it’s going to require Democrats to just toughen up,” Obama said at the fundraiser

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[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 9 points 12 hours ago (38 children)

I don't really remember Obama as spineless lol what is he spineless about?

Look he's a politician they suck but acting like Obama wasn't one of the best presidents we had in like 40 years is silly.

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 hours ago (10 children)
[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 0 points 9 hours ago (9 children)

Bailing out the bank?

I personally believe the financial system in America is the core of corruption. I also know that corruption is why America has any standard of value. Not saying it's right, just the truth.

In that situation, you just let the boat sink? Because morally it's wrong? We like to pretend there would be no blowback from letting that happen but there would be and not in a good way. So he did what everyone else does, kick the can down the road. What do you do in that instance? Let it die and watch your economy shit the bed because you don't like it or something?

You guys are such idealists man c'mon. This is why progressives don't exist in America.

[–] Balerion@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Just say you're a conservative and go. "Progressives" like you are such cowards. You're so eager to slobber over politicians' boots and make up excuses for why they can't do anything good. I wish I could at least believe the DNC was paying you off, but I was one of you once, so I know full well you've just drunk the neoliberal Kool-Aid that hard. The people ready to jump down leftists' throats with "um, ackshually, it's physically impossible to do better than center-right austerity and authoritarianism" whenever we speak up have far more to do with why leftists have no power than any leftist "idealism." Throughout history, it's always been the lunatic radicals who made actual change, while the craven moderates fought them tooth and nail to preserve the intolerable status quo. Ever notice how conservatives are utterly unrestrained by all the things liberals insist are holding them back from making change? When MAGA wants something, they get it, no matter how unreasonable or flat-out absurd it is. But when the Democrats' base demands better of them, they wring their hands and lament how gosh golly gee, they'd love to make things better, but they can't because something something civility something something norms. If progressives fought like conservatives, we'd have fucking fully automated luxury gay space communism by now.

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 1 points 5 hours ago

Literally a socialist. Nice try.

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